netdev - Re: [PATCH] net: Add etun driver

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Message-ID: <461B7060.8000407@trash.net>
Date:	Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:09:20 +0200
From:	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>
To:	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>
CC:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	dim@...nvz.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, jgarzik@...ox.com,
	containers@...ts.osdl.org, kuznet@....inr.ac.ru,
	shemminger@...ux-foundation.org, greearb@...delatech.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Add etun driver

Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 12:46 +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> 
> 
>>The main advantage that we don't get more weird sysfs/proc/ioctl based
>>interfaces
> 
> 
> Please don't put me into a corner I don't want to be in ;) The new
> wireless stuff was completely designed using netlink. The sysfs
> interface to these two specific things was a concession since it used to
> exist before and we don't really have a fully functional userspace tool
> yet.


I know :) It was a few month ago when I noticed the new bonding
sysfs interface when I first thought that we really need this.

>> and use the same interface that is used for all other network
>>configuration, which f.e. will allow to add support for all software
>>devices to iproute without much effort, so you don't need 30 different
>>tools for configuring the different software device types anymore.
>>Additionally we get atomic setup/dumps and extensibility.
> 
> 
> I don't think wireless can get away without a new tool. So much stuff
> there. Look at
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-dev.git;a=blob;f=include/linux/nl80211.h;hb=HEAD


Maybe not wireless, but bonding, briding, vlan, etun, possibly more.
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