netdev - Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

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Message-Id: <20071113041259.79c9a8c5.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:12:59 -0800
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	protasnb@...il.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, alsa-devel@...a-project.org,
	linux-ide@...r.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-input@...ey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	bugme-daemon@...zilla.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:58:24 -0800 (PST) David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> wrote:

> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:49:16 -0800
> 
> > Do you believe that our response to bug reports is adequate?
> 
> Do you feel that making us feel and look like shit helps?
> 

That doesn't answer my question.

See, first we need to work out whether we have a problem.  If we do this,
then we can then have a think about what to do about it.

I tried to convince the 2006 KS attendees that we have a problem and I
resoundingly failed.  People seemed to think that we're doing OK.

But it appears that data such as this contradicts that belief.

This is not a minor matter.  If the kernel _is_ slowly deteriorating then
this won't become readily apparent until it has been happening for a number
of years.  By that stage there will be so much work to do to get us back to
an acceptable level that it will take a huge effort.  And it will take a
long time after that for the kerel to get its reputation back.

So it is important that we catch deterioration *early* if it is happening.

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