netdev - Re: [PATCH 03/16] dma-debug: add hash functions for dma_debug

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Date:	Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:43:26 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@....com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	mingo@...hat.com, dwmw2@...radead.org,
	fujita.tomonori@....ntt.co.jp, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/16] dma-debug: add hash functions for
	dma_debug_entries


* Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:43:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > * Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:19:17 +0100 Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@....com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > +struct hash_bucket {
> > > > +	struct list_head list;
> > > > +	spinlock_t lock;
> > > > +} ____cacheline_aligned;
> > > 
> > > __cacheline_aligned_in_smp.
> > > 
> > > This all looks like an exotically large amount of code for a debug 
> > > thingy?
> > 
> > this code checks the DMA usage of ~1 million lines of kernel code - 
> > all the DMA using drivers. I think Joerg's feature is hugely relevant 
> > as DMA scribbles are one of the hardest to debug kernel bugs: they can 
> > end up in permanent data corruption or other hard to find bugs. In 
> > fact i think his patchset is rather simple and even having 10 times as 
> > much debug code would pay for its existence in the long run.
> 
> Have we previously found bugs by other means which this facility would 
> have detected?  I don't recall any...

this facility found a handful of real bugs already - Joerg, do you have 
more specifics about that?

Also, such a facility would be useful during driver development, when such 
bugs occur en masse. Faster driver development under Linux is certainly 
desirable.

This facility basically adds a sandbox to all DMA ops and tracks the 
lifetime and validity of DMA operations. Given how ugly DMA bugs can be in 
practice and how hard to debug they are, i see this as good step forward.

	Ingo
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