netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next-2.6] ip: Report qdisc packet drops

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Message-ID: <4A9BBD8E.2010303@gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:09:50 +0200
From:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
CC:	cl@...ux-foundation.org, sri@...ibm.com, dlstevens@...ibm.com,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, niv@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	mtk.manpages@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next-2.6] ip: Report qdisc packet drops

David Miller a écrit :
> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:26:04 +0200
> 
>> [PATCH] ip: Report qdisc packet drops
>>
>> Christoph Lameter pointed out that packet drops at qdisc level where not
>> accounted in SNMP counters. Only if application sets IP_RECVERR, drops
>> are reported to user and SNMP counters updated.
>>
>> IP_RECVERR is used to enable extended reliable error message passing.
>> In case of tx drops at qdisc level, no error packet will be generated.
>> It seems un-necessary to hide the qdisc drops for non IP_RECVERR enabled
>> sockets (as probably most sockets are)
>>
>> By removing the check of IP_RECVERR enabled sockets in ip_push_pending_frames()/
>> raw_send_hdrinc() / ip6_push_pending_frames() / rawv6_send_hdrinc(),
>> we can properly update IPSTATS_MIB_OUTDISCARDS, and in case of UDP, update
>> UDP_MIB_SNDBUFERRORS SNMP counters.
>>
>> Application send() syscalls, instead of returning an OK status (thus lying),
>> will return -ENOBUFS error.
>>
>> Note : send() manual page explicitly says for -ENOBUFS error :
>>
>>  "The output queue for a network interface was full.
>>   This generally indicates that the interface has stopped sending,
>>   but may be caused by transient congestion.
>>   (Normally, this does not occur in Linux. Packets are just silently
>>   dropped when a device queue overflows.) "
>>
>> This was not true for IP_RECVERR enabled sockets for < 2.6.32 linuxes,
>> and starting from linux 2.6.32, last part wont be true at all.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>
> 
> The core question in all of this is what IP_RECVERR means.
> 
> As far as I remember Alexey Kuznetsov's intentions, it means that the
> application is interested in learning about errors caused by the
> infrastructure of the network between local and remote stacks.
> 
> Reporting a qdisc level drop to the application by default has the
> potential to break applications, because BSD and other stacks do not
> do this.
> 
> I can see why we might be able to get away with making this change
> now.  And I also can see the benefits of it, for sure.
> 
> Let me think about this some more.

Yes I do agree this is risky.

Re-reading again this stuff, I realized ip6_push_pending_frames()
was not updating IPSTATS_MIB_OUTDISCARDS, even if IP_RECVERR was set.

May I suggest following path :

1) Correct ip6_push_pending_frames() to properly
account for dropped-by-qdisc frames when IP_RECVERR is set

2) Submit a patch to account for qdisc-dropped frames in SNMP counters
but still return a OK to user application, to not break them ?

Thanks

[PATCH] ipv6: ip6_push_pending_frames() should increment IPSTATS_MIB_OUTDISCARDS

qdisc drops should be notified to IP_RECVERR enabled sockets, as done in IPV4.

Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
---
diff --git a/net/ipv6/ip6_output.c b/net/ipv6/ip6_output.c
index 6ad5aad..a931229 100644
--- a/net/ipv6/ip6_output.c
+++ b/net/ipv6/ip6_output.c
@@ -1520,6 +1520,7 @@ out:
 	ip6_cork_release(inet, np);
 	return err;
 error:
+	IP6_INC_STATS(net, rt->rt6i_idev, IPSTATS_MIB_OUTDISCARDS);
 	goto out;
 }
 
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