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Date:	Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:29:42 +0200
From:	"Rémi Denis-Courmont" 
	<remi.denis-courmont@...ia.com>
To:	ext Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] Phonet: use rwlock for sockets list

On Friday 06 November 2009 16:00:39 ext Eric Dumazet, you wrote:
> Rémi Denis-Courmont a écrit :
> > It seems better than a spinlock, assuming that sockets are
> > created/destroyed more seldom than they receive packets. And then
> > sk_for_each_rcu does not exist. I am sure there is a good reason for
> > that, though I wouldn't know. I guess I should try to use RCU hlist_nulls
> > then?
> 
> spin_lock()/spin_unlock() is faster than read_lock()/read_unlock(), unless
> there is contention.  (two atomic ops instead of one)
> 
> So, unless you have a particular performance problem, it's actually
> better to use a spinlock.
> 
> If you do have performance problem, a RCU conversion is better than rwlock.
> I can do RCU conversion if you ask me...

The most obvious current bottleneck is the sockets linked-list more so than 
the locking scheme (RCU vs spinlock vs rwlock). I'll fix that soonish 
regardless of the locking.

Then there is the devices lists. I did not want to clutter all net_device's 
with a Phonet-specific pointer, since most devices aren't Phonet-capable. So 
we have a linked-list for per-device data. There, I guess RCU would make 
sense, but it did not seem trivial a change at all.

That said, there are no real "problems" yet - I was just trying to improve 
things. N900 ships with the 2.6.30 Phonet stack, and it works fine :) The 3G 
access network is typically the biggest bottleneck anyway...

So if you say R/W locks suck, screw this patch.

Thanks!

-- 
Rémi Denis-Courmont
Nokia Devices R&D, Maemo Software, Helsinki
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