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Message-ID: <adaeiocyykl.fsf@roland-alpha.cisco.com>
Date:	Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:08:58 -0800
From:	Roland Dreier <rdreier@...co.com>
To:	Simon Horman <horms@...ge.net.au>
Cc:	Liran Liss <liranl@...lanox.co.il>,
	Or Gerlitz <or.gerlitz@...il.com>,
	Yevgeny Petrilin <yevgenyp@...lanox.co.il>,
	linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	Tziporet Koren <tziporet@...lanox.co.il>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/25] mlx4: Randomizing mac addresses for slaves


 > > igb uses the full output of random_ether_addr().  I'd be fine with
 > > that.  However setting the OUI means you only get 24 bits of randomness
 > > which makes a collision a lot more likely.
 > 
 > IIRC that was precisely why the OUI isn't used for the igb driver.
 > 
 > Perhaps some infrastructure (by which I mean a random_mac() function)
 > is warranted so at least this discussion can be concentrated around that
 > rather than repeating it for each driver that needs random mac addresses.

What would be the difference between random_mac() and the existing
random_ether_addr() function?

If one chooses a random address with a given OUI, then with only 24 bits
of randomness, the birthday paradox says it takes only a few thousand
addresses to get a collision (easy to hit given even a modest-sized
virtualization setup).  With the 46 bits that random_ether_addr() gives
it takes millions of addresses to be likely to get a collision, which is
probably comfortable for most ethernets.

So it seems that random_ether_addr() is exactly what we should be using
for VFs -- the only alternative I see is for the manufacturer to
allocate N extra ethernet addresses for a NIC that supports N virtual
functions, and use those assigned addresses.  But if the kernel is
making up ethernet addresses then we better use all the bits we can.

 - R.
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