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Message-ID: <4B3729ED.50006@redhat.com>
Date:	Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:33:33 +0200
From:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>
To:	Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@...il.com>
CC:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	"alacrityvm-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net" 
	<alacrityvm-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33

On 12/24/2009 11:36 AM, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>> As a twist on this, the VMware paravirt driver interface is so
>> hardware-like that they're getting hardware vendors to supply cards that
>> implement it.  Try that with a pure software approach.
>>      
> Any hardware engineer (myself included) will tell you that, generally
> speaking, what you can do in hardware you can do in software (think of
> what QEMU does today, for instance).  It's purely a cost/performance
> tradeoff.
>
> I can at least tell you that is true of vbus.  Anything on the vbus side
> would be equally eligible for a hardware implementation, though there is
> not reason to do this today since we have equivalent functionality in
> baremetal already.

There's a huge difference in the probability of vmware getting cards to 
their spec, or x86 vendors improving interrupt delivery to guests, 
compared to vbus being implemented in hardware.

> The only motiviation is if you wanted to preserve
> ABI etc, which is what vmware is presumably after.  However, I am not
> advocating this as necessary at this juncture.
>    

Maybe AlacrityVM users don't care about compatibility, but my users do.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

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