netdev - Re: [RFC][PATCH v3] Unprivileged: Disable raising of privileges

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Date:	Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:41:08 -0800
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3] Unprivileged: Disable raising of privileges

"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@...nel.org> writes:

> Since there is already independent support for disabling file
> capabilities (the privilege escalation part), I see these two
> mechanisms as separable.

I guess there is something that resembles support for disabling
privilege escalation.  The problem is that it requires privilege to
use it.

I have no problem with expressing this in a fine grained manner internally
to the kernel but the user space interface needs to be atomic so that
we can enable this all without privilege.

Further I may be off but I think the implementation would be more
challenging than what I have already posted.  That doesn't mean it
won't be more useful long term.

Eric
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