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Message-ID: <20091231214621.GA14116@us.ibm.com>
Date:	Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:46:21 -0600
From:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	"Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@...nel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@...il.com>,
	Benny Amorsen <benny+usenet@...rsen.dk>,
	Michael Stone <michael@...top.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>, David Lang <david@...g.hm>,
	Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@...tkopp.net>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@...emap.net>,
	"C. Scott Ananian" <cscott@...ott.net>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Bernie Innocenti <bernie@...ewiz.org>,
	Mark Seaborn <mrs@...hic-beasts.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	Américo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Samir Bellabes <sam@...ack.fr>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3] Unprivileged: Disable raising of privileges

Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com):
> "Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@...nel.org> writes:
> 
> > Since there is already independent support for disabling file
> > capabilities (the privilege escalation part), I see these two
> > mechanisms as separable.
> 
> I guess there is something that resembles support for disabling
> privilege escalation.  The problem is that it requires privilege to
> use it.
> 
> I have no problem with expressing this in a fine grained manner internally
> to the kernel but the user space interface needs to be atomic so that
> we can enable this all without privilege.
> 
> Further I may be off but I think the implementation would be more
> challenging than what I have already posted.  That doesn't mean it
> won't be more useful long term.
> 
> Eric

Right, what we can currently do with capabilities is:

	1. drop capabilities from the bounding set.  This is
	   privileged because it is fine-grained, and can trick
	   capability-unaware privileged programs.
	2. drop CAP_SETUID from pP, pI, and the bounding set,
	   to prevent any future setuids.  Privileged for the
	   same reason as 1.
	3. set SECURE_NOROOT and SECURE_NOSUIDFIXUP, so that
	   uid 0 won't automatically get privileges.

It doesn't provide a way for stopping setuid on setuid binaries, though,
and as we've previously noted, while we'd *like* to say that uids and
privileges can be treated separately, in reality the unprivileged
root user still owns most of the system.  So we should also provide the
per-task nosuid bit, meaning do not change uid for a setuid binary.  This
could be treated as another securebit,

	SECURE_NOSUID

So if the capabilities module supports a special
	prctl(PR_SET_NOSUID)
which at the same time completely empties pP, pE, pI, and
the bounding set, and sets the SECURE_NOSUID securebit, that
should be safe for an unprivileged user.  (There is no need
for SECURE_NOROOT and SECURE_NOSUIDFIXUP in that case obviously).

Or, it could set SECURE_NOSUID|SECURE_NOROOT|SECURE_NOSUID_FIXUP
(and the corresponding _LOCKED bits).

-serge
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