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Date:	Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:24:34 -0500
From:	"Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR)" <chas@....nrl.navy.mil>
To:	Philippe De Muyter <phdm@...qel.be>
cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] atm : fix /sys/devices/virtual/atm/X/carrier(ATM_PHY_SIG_UNKNOWN)

In message <20100213215633.GA4345@...lo.macqel>,Philippe De Muyter writes:
>value '1' while actually carrier was not yet established and real carrier
>state was not yet known to linux.  I propose to fix that by using '?' as the
>/sys/devices/virtual/atm/cxacru0/carrier value when carrier state is not yet
>known to linux.  Any other value except '1' would also be OK for me.

this is sort of intentional because some drivers dont actually implement
atm_dev->signal.  ATM_PHY_SIG_UNKNOWN and ATM_PHY_SIG_LOST should
likely be carrier = 0.  if the driver doesnt isnt going to handle
changing the state of atm_dev->signal it should just set the value to
ATM_PHY_SIG_FOUND.

i dont like the idea of carrier being '?' -- carrier is either true or false.
you have it or you dont.
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