Message-ID: <20100913115054.GA5584@redhat.com>
Date:	Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:50:55 +0200
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Krishna Kumar2 <krkumar2@...ibm.com>
Cc:	anthony@...emonkey.ws, davem@...emloft.net, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, rusty@...tcorp.com.au, avi@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Implement multiqueue virtio-net

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 09:42:22AM +0530, Krishna Kumar2 wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote on 09/12/2010 05:10:25 PM:
> 
> > > SINGLE vhost (Guest -> Host):
> > >    1 netperf:    BW: 10.7%     SD: -1.4%
> > >    4 netperfs:   BW: 3%        SD: 1.4%
> > >    8 netperfs:   BW: 17.7%     SD: -10%
> > >       16 netperfs:  BW: 4.7%      SD: -7.0%
> > >       32 netperfs:  BW: -6.1%     SD: -5.7%
> > > BW and SD both improves (guest multiple txqs help). For 32
> > > netperfs, SD improves.
> > >
> > > But with multiple vhosts, guest is able to send more packets
> > > and BW increases much more (SD too increases, but I think
> > > that is expected).
> >
> > Why is this expected?
> 
> Results with the original kernel:
> _____________________________
> #       BW      SD      RSD
> ______________________________
> 1       20903   1       6
> 2       21963   6       25
> 4       22042   23      102
> 8       21674   97      419
> 16      22281   379     1663
> 24      22521   857     3748
> 32      22976   1528    6594
> 40      23197   2390    10239
> 48      22973   3542    15074
> 64      23809   6486    27244
> 80      23564   10169   43118
> 96      22977   14954   62948
> 128     23649   27067   113892
> ________________________________
> 
> With higher number of threads running in parallel, SD
> increased. In this case most threads run in parallel
> only till __dev_xmit_skb (#numtxqs=1). With mq TX patch,
> higher number of threads run in parallel through
> ndo_start_xmit. I *think* the increase in SD is to do
> with higher # of threads running for larger code path
> >From the numbers I posted with the patch (cut-n-paste
> only the % parts), BW increased much more than the SD,
> sometimes more than twice the increase in SD.

Service demand is BW/CPU, right? So if BW goes up by 50%
and SD by 40%, this means that CPU more than doubled.

> N#      BW%     SD%      RSD%
> 4       54.30   40.00    -1.16
> 8       71.79   46.59    -2.68
> 16      71.89   50.40    -2.50
> 32      72.24   34.26    -14.52
> 48      70.10   31.51    -14.35
> 64      69.01   38.81    -9.66
> 96      70.68   71.26    10.74
> 
> I also think SD calculation gets skewed for guest->local
> host testing.

If it's broken, let's fix it?

> For this test, I ran a guest with numtxqs=16.
> The first result below is with my patch, which creates 16
> vhosts. The second result is with a modified patch which
> creates only 2 vhosts (testing with #netperfs = 64):

My guess is it's not a good idea to have more TX VQs than guest CPUs.

I realize for management it's easier to pass in a single vhost fd, but
just for testing it's probably easier to add code in userspace to open
/dev/vhost multiple times.

> 
> #vhosts  BW%     SD%        RSD%
> 16       20.79   186.01     149.74
> 2        30.89   34.55      18.44
> 
> The remote SD increases with the number of vhost threads,
> but that number seems to correlate with guest SD. So though
> BW% increased slightly from 20% to 30%, SD fell drastically
> from 186% to 34%. I think it could be a calculation skew
> with host SD, which also fell from 150% to 18%.

I think by default netperf looks in /proc/stat for CPU utilization data:
so host CPU utilization will include the guest CPU, I think?

I would go further and claim that for host/guest TCP
CPU utilization and SD should always be identical.
Makes sense?

> 
> I am planning to submit 2nd patch rev with restricted
> number of vhosts.
> 
> > > Likely cause for the 1 stream degradation with multiple
> > > vhost patch:
> > >
> > > 1. Two vhosts run handling the RX and TX respectively.
> > >    I think the issue is related to cache ping-pong esp
> > >    since these run on different cpus/sockets.
> >
> > Right. With TCP I think we are better off handling
> > TX and RX for a socket by the same vhost, so that
> > packet and its ack are handled by the same thread.
> > Is this what happens with RX multiqueue patch?
> > How do we select an RX queue to put the packet on?
> 
> My (unsubmitted) RX patch doesn't do this yet, that is
> something I will check.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - KK

You'll want to work on top of net-next, I think there's
RX flow filtering work going on there.

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