Message-ID: <20101201043017.GA3485@verge.net.au>
Date:	Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:30:19 +0900
From:	Simon Horman <horms@...ge.net.au>
To:	Rick Jones <rick.jones2@...com>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bonding, GRO and tcp_reordering

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 09:56:02AM -0800, Rick Jones wrote:
> Simon Horman wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just wanted to share what is a rather pleasing,
> >though to me somewhat surprising result.
> >
> >I am testing bonding using balance-rr mode with three physical links to try
> >to get > gigabit speed for a single stream. Why?  Because I'd like to run
> >various tests at > gigabit speed and I don't have any 10G hardware at my
> >disposal.
> >
> >The result I have is that with a 1500 byte MTU, tcp_reordering=3 and both
> >LSO and GSO disabled on both the sender and receiver I see:
> >
> ># netperf -c -4 -t TCP_STREAM -H 172.17.60.216 -- -m 1472
> 
> Why 1472 bytes per send?  If you wanted a 1-1 between the send size
> and the MSS, I would guess that 1448 would have been in order.  1472
> would be the maximum data payload for a UDP/IPv4 datagram.  TCP will
> have more header than UDP.

Only to be consistent with UDP testing that I was doing at the same time.
I'll re-test with 1448.

> 
> >TCP STREAM TEST from 0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0) port 0 AF_INET to 172.17.60.216
> >(172.17.60.216) port 0 AF_INET
> >Recv   Send    Send                          Utilization       Service Demand
> >Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed              Send     Recv     Send    Recv
> >Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput  local    remote   local   remote
> >bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/s  % S      % U      us/KB   us/KB
> >
> >  87380  16384   1472    10.01      1646.13   40.01    -1.00    3.982  -1.000
> >
> >But with GRO enabled on the receiver I see.
> >
> ># netperf -c -4 -t TCP_STREAM -H 172.17.60.216 -- -m 1472
> >TCP STREAM TEST from 0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0) port 0 AF_INET to 172.17.60.216
> >(172.17.60.216) port 0 AF_INET
> >Recv   Send    Send                          Utilization       Service Demand
> >Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed              Send     Recv     Send    Recv
> >Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput  local    remote   local   remote
> >bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/s  % S      % U      us/KB   us/KB
> >
> > 87380  16384   1472    10.01      2613.83   19.32    -1.00    1.211   -1.000
> 
> If you are changing things on the receiver, you should probably
> enable remote CPU utilization measurement with the -C option.

Thanks, I will do so.

> >Which is much better than any result I get tweaking tcp_reordering when
> >GRO is disabled on the receiver.
> >
> >Tweaking tcp_reordering when GRO is enabled on the receiver seems to have
> >negligible effect.  Which is interesting, because my brief reading on the
> >subject indicated that tcp_reordering was the key tuning parameter for
> >bonding with balance-rr.
> 
> You are in a maze of twisty heuristics and algorithms, all
> interacting :)  If there are only three links in the bond, I suspect
> the chances for spurrious fast retransmission are somewhat smaller
> than if you had say four, based on just hand-waving on three
> duplicate ACKs requires receipt of perhaps four out of order
> segments.

Unfortunately NIC/slot availability only stretches to three links :-(
If you think its really worthwhile I can obtain some more dual-port nics.

> >The only other parameter that seemed to have significant effect was to
> >increase the mtu.  In the case of MTU=9000, GRO seemed to have a negative
> >impact on throughput, though a significant positive effect on CPU
> >utilisation.
> >
> >MTU=9000, sender,receiver:tcp_reordering=3(default), receiver:GRO=off
> >netperf -c -4 -t TCP_STREAM -H 172.17.60.216 -- -m 9872
> 
> 9872?

It should have been 8972, I'll retest with 8948 as per your suggestion above.

> >Recv   Send    Send                          Utilization       Service Demand
> >Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed              Send     Recv     Send    Recv
> >Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput  local    remote   local   remote
> >bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/s  % S      % U      us/KB   us/KB
> >
> > 87380  16384   9872    10.01      2957.52   14.89    -1.00    0.825   -1.000
> >
> >MTU=9000, sender,receiver:tcp_reordering=3(default), receiver:GRO=on
> >netperf -c -4 -t TCP_STREAM -H 172.17.60.216 -- -m 9872
> >Recv   Send    Send                          Utilization       Service Demand
> >Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed              Send     Recv     Send    Recv
> >Size   Size    Size     Time     Throughput  local    remote   local   remote
> >bytes  bytes   bytes    secs.    10^6bits/s  % S      % U      us/KB   us/KB
> >
> > 87380  16384   9872    10.01      2847.64   10.84    -1.00    0.624   -1.000
> 
> Short of packet traces, taking snapshots of netstat statistics
> before and after each netperf run might be goodness - you can look
> at things like ratio of ACKs to data segments/bytes and such.
> LRO/GRO can have a non-trivial effect on the number of ACKs, and
> ACKs are what matter for fast retransmit.
> 
> netstat -s > before
> netperf ...
> netstat -s > after
> beforeafter before after > delta
> 
> where beforeafter comes (for now, the site will have to go away
> before long as the campus on which it is located has been sold)
> ftp://ftp.cup.hp.com/dist/networking/tools/  and will subtract
> before from after.

Thanks, I'll take a look into that.

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