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Date:	Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:15:05 -0700
From:	Roopa Prabhu <roprabhu@...co.com>
To:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
CC:	<netdev@...r.kernel.org>, <sri@...ibm.com>,
	<dragos.tatulea@...il.com>, <arnd@...db.de>, <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	<davem@...emloft.net>, <mchan@...adcom.com>, <dwang2@...co.com>,
	<shemminger@...tta.com>, <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	<kaber@...sh.net>, <benve@...co.com>,
	"Rose, Gregory V" <gregory.v.rose@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next-2.6 PATCH 0/8 RFC v2] macvlan: MAC Address filtering
 support for passthru mode

On 10/23/11 10:47 PM, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:25:54PM -0700, Roopa Prabhu wrote:
>> v1 version of this RFC patch was posted at
>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg174245.html
>> 
>> Today macvtap used in virtualized environment does not have support to
>> propagate MAC, VLAN and interface flags from guest to lowerdev.
>> Which means to be able to register additional VLANs, unicast and multicast
>> addresses or change pkt filter flags in the guest, the lowerdev has to be
>> put in promisocous mode. Today the only macvlan mode that supports this is
>> the PASSTHRU mode and it puts the lower dev in promiscous mode.
>> 
>> PASSTHRU mode was added primarily for the SRIOV usecase. In PASSTHRU mode
>> there is a 1-1 mapping between macvtap and physical NIC or VF.
>> 
>> There are two problems with putting the lowerdev in promiscous mode (ie SRIOV
>> VF's):
>> - Some SRIOV cards dont support promiscous mode today (Thread on Intel
>> driver indicates that http://lists.openwall.net/netdev/2011/09/27/6)
>> - For the SRIOV NICs that support it, Putting the lowerdev in
>> promiscous mode leads to additional traffic being sent up to the
>> guest virtio-net to filter result in extra overheads.
>> 
>> Both the above problems can be solved by offloading filtering to the
>> lowerdev hw. ie lowerdev does not need to be in promiscous mode as
>> long as the guest filters are passed down to the lowerdev.
>> 
>> This patch basically adds the infrastructure to set and get MAC and VLAN
>> filters on an interface via rtnetlink. And adds support in macvlan and
>> macvtap
>> to allow set and get filter operations.
> 
> Looks sane to me. Some minor comments below.
> 
>> Earlier version of this patch provided the TUNSETTXFILTER macvtap interface
>> for setting address filtering. In response to feedback, This version
>> introduces a netlink interface for the same.
>> 
>> Response to some of the questions raised during v1:
>> 
>> - Netlink interface:
>> This patch provides the following netlink interface to set mac and vlan
>> filters :
>> [IFLA_RX_FILTER] = {
>> [IFLA_ADDR_FILTER] = {
>> [IFLA_ADDR_FILTER_FLAGS]
>> [IFLA_ADDR_FILTER_UC_LIST] = {
>> [IFLA_ADDR_LIST_ENTRY]
>> }
>> [IFLA_ADDR_FILTER_MC_LIST] = {
>> [IFLA_ADDR_LIST_ENTRY]
>> }
>> }
>> [IFLA_VLAN_FILTER] = {
>> [IFLA_VLAN_BITMAP]
>> }
>> }
>> 
>> Note: The IFLA_VLAN_FILTER is a nested attribute and contains only
>> IFLA_VLAN_BITMAP today. The idea is that the IFLA_VLAN_FILTER can
>> be extended tomorrow to use a vlan list option if some implementations
>> prefer a list instead.
>> 
>> And it provides the following rtnl_link_ops to set/get MAC/VLAN filters:
>> 
>>        int                     (*set_rx_addr_filter)(struct net_device *dev,
>>                                                struct nlattr *tb[]);
>>        int                     (*set_rx_vlan_filter)(struct net_device *dev,
>>                                                 struct nlattr *tb[]);
>>        size_t                  (*get_rx_addr_filter_size)(const struct
>> net_device *dev);
>>        size_t                  (*get_rx_vlan_filter_size)(const struct
>> net_device *dev);
>>        int                     (*fill_rx_addr_filter)(struct sk_buff *skb,
>>                                                 const struct net_device
>> *dev);
>>        int                     (*fill_rx_vlan_filter)(struct sk_buff *skb,
>>                                                 const struct net_device
>> *dev);
>> 
>> 
>> Note: The choice of rtnl_link_ops was because I saw the use case for
>> this in virtual devices that need  to do filtering in sw like macvlan
>> and tun. Hw devices usually have filtering in hw with netdev->uc and
>> mc lists to indicate active filters. But I can move from rtnl_link_ops
>> to netdev_ops if that is the preferred way to go and if there is a
>> need to support this interface on all kinds of interfaces.
>> Please suggest.
>> 
>> - Protection against address spoofing:
>> - This patch adds filtering support only for macvtap PASSTHRU
>> Mode. PASSTHRU mode is used mainly with SRIOV VF's. And SRIOV VF's
>> come with anti mac/vlan spoofing support. (Recently added
>> IFLA_VF_SPOOFCHK). In 802.1Qbh case the port profile has a knob to
>> enable/disable anti spoof check. Lowerdevice drivers also enforce limits
>> on the number of address registrations allowed.
>> 
>> - Support for multiqueue devices: Enable filtering on individual queues (?):
>> AFAIK, there is no netdev interface to install per queue hw
>> filters for a multi queue interface. And also I dont know of any hw
>> that provides an interface to set hw filters on a per queue basis.
> 
> VMDq hardware would support this, no?
> 
Am not really sure. This patch uses netdev to pass filters to hw. And I
don't see any netdev infrastructure that would support per queue filters.
Maybe Greg (CC'ed) or anyone else from Intel can answer this.
Greg, michael had brought up this question during first version of these
patches as well. Will be nice to get the VMDq requirements for propagating
guest filters to hw clarified. Do you see any special VMDq nic requirement
we can cover in this patch. This is for VMDq queues directly connected to
guest nics. Thanks.


>> A multi queue device appears as a single lowerdev (ie netdev) and
>> uses the same uc and mc lists to setup unicast and multicast hw filters.
>> So i dont see a huge problem with this patch coming in the way for
>> multi queue devices.
>> 
>> - Support for non-PASSTHRU mode:
>> I started implementing this. But there are a couple of problems. 
>> - The lowerdev may not be a SRIOV VF and may not have
>> anti spoof capability
> 
> Anti-spoofing a really a separate feature, isn't it?
> 
Yes that is correct. It really should not be a concern with implementing
support for non-PASSTHRU mode. The only intent of adding the above line was
that eventually we should probably think of supporting anti-spoof feature on
Non-sriov devices if they are accepting filters from the guest.
I think I will move the above line to some place else more appropriate in
the comment log instead of covering it as part of the non-passthru macvlan
implementation.
 

>> - Today, in non-PASSTHRU cases macvlan_handle_frame assumes that
>> every macvlan device on top of the lowerdev has a single unique mac.
>> And the macvlans are hashed on that single mac address.
>> To support filtering for non-PASSTHRU mode in addition to this
>> patch the following needs to be done:
>> - non-passthru mode with a single macvlan over a lower dev
>> can be treated as PASSTHRU case
>> - For non-PASSTHRU mode with multiple macvlans over a single
>> lower dev:  
>> - Multiple unicast mac's now need to be hashed to the
>> same macvlan device. The macvlan hash needs to change
>> for lookup based on any one of the multiple unicast
>> addresses a macvlan is interested in
>> - We need to consider vlans during the lookup too
>> - So the macvlan device hash needs to hash on both mac
>> and vlan
> 
> It might be useful to expose the filters to the device.
> 

Yes

>> - But the support for filtering in non-PASSTHRU mode can be
>> built on this patch
> 
> 
> Agree, this can be added gradually.
> 

Ok thanks. Currently testing newer version of these patches, will post them
Sometime this week.



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