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Date:	Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:47:18 +0100
From:	David Lamparter <equinox@...c24.net>
To:	Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@...u.net>
Cc:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, equinox@...c24.net,
	hans.schillstrom@...csson.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC Hanging clean-up of a namespace

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:40:53PM +0100, Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote:
> * Eric W. Biederman | 2012-01-19 13:24:13 [-0800]:
> 
> >This thread is a fascinating disconnect from reality all of the way
> >around.
> >
> >- inet_twsk_purge already implements throwing out of timewait sockets
> >  when a network namespaces is being cleaned up.  So the RFC is nonsense.
> 
> This is how it is implemented, not how it should be. TIME_WAIT is not the
> problem, it is there to keep the stack from sending wrong RST messages. Maybe
> the 2*MSL could be fixed by a more accurate 2*RTT.

I may have made that argument hidden behind a joke, but please refer to
the development of RFC 793's bootup "quiet time". The reason no one
sticks to this quiet time is that TCP timestamps have obsoleted it by
providing a better frame of reference. Refer to RFC 1323 Appendix B
"DUPLICATES FROM EARLIER CONNECTION INCARNATIONS".


-David
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