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Date:	Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:12:21 +0000
From:	Steve Glendinning <steve@...well.net>
To:	Ming Lei <ming.lei@...onical.com>
Cc:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>,
	Steve Glendinning <steve.glendinning@...well.net>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] smsc95xx: enable dynamic autosuspend (RFC)

On 11 December 2012 12:53, Ming Lei <ming.lei@...onical.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org> wrote:
>> So they can autosuspend if the interface is up and no cable is plugged
>> in?
>
> From the open datasheet, that is the suspend 1 mode, which is supported
> by all LAN95xx devices. Steve, correct me if I am wrong.

All parts support SUSPEND1, but some parts can't 100% reliably wake on
ENERGYON - some link partners will wake them but others won't.  The
driver already detects parts that work reliably with all link partners
and sets the FEATURE_PHY_NLP_CROSSOVER feature flag.

I didn't block these devices from configuring WOL, because they do
work in *some* cases and the user is explicitly requesting to wake the
system so we try to do that (and sometimes succeed).

>>> I suggest to introduce link-off triggered runtime suspend for these
>>> usbnet devices(non-LAN9500A device, devices which don't support
>>> USB auto-suspend), and I have posted one patch set before[1].
>>> If no one objects that, I'd like to post them again with some fix and
>>> update for checking link after link_reset().
>>
>> If you can get rid of a periodic work this would be great.
>
> For the LAN95xx devices, the periodic work isn't needed because
> they may generate remote wakeup when link change is detected.

As above, some parts will do this but some will not.  I think we
should only consider sleeping the part if we're sure it'll wake up
when a cable is connected!

-- 
Steve Glendinning
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