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Date:	Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:48:48 +0100
From:	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>
To:	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
	Peter Schiffer <pschiffe@...hat.com>,
	linux-man@...r.kernel.org, netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ip.7: Improve explanation about calling listen or connect

Hi Flavio,

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Flavio Leitner <fbl@...hat.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 03:00:03AM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Flavio Leitner <fbl@...hat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Could someone tell me what's the patch current state?
>> > It has been a month already with no feedback.
>> > thanks,
>> > fbl
>>
>> Following up, long after the fact.
>>
>> Flavio, I had no time pack then to review this patch... One problem
>> is, you never gave any rationle for the change ("Improve explanation
>> of..." is not a rationale -- I need to know *why* you think the
>> changes are needed.)
>
> Because the current explanation is not detailed enough and/or the way
> it is written may lead to a wrong interpretation, specially for non-English
> users.  Therefore, it should be improved adding supporting details
> and a better writing to clarify each case.
>
> The patch adds the missing details and clarifies each use case.
>
> Thanks,
> fbl
Peter sent me some supporting technical info that you'd supplied
elsewhere. I've applied your patch now.

Thanks!

Michael



>> > On Fri, 25 May 2012 13:02:48 +0200
>> > Peter Schiffer <pschiffe@...hat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Michael,
>> >>
>> >> do you have any comments for this update? Or do you need some supporting
>> >> info?
>> >>
>> >> peter
>> >>
>> >> On 05/09/2012 02:30 PM, Flavio Leitner wrote:
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Flavio Leitner<fbl@...hat.com>
>> >> > ---
>> >> >   man7/ip.7 |   15 +++++++++------
>> >> >   1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>> >> >
>> >> > diff --git a/man7/ip.7 b/man7/ip.7
>> >> > index 9f560df..84fe32d 100644
>> >> > --- a/man7/ip.7
>> >> > +++ b/man7/ip.7
>> >> > @@ -69,12 +69,11 @@ For
>> >> >   you may specify a valid IANA IP protocol defined in
>> >> >   RFC\ 1700 assigned numbers.
>> >> >   .PP
>> >> > -.\" FIXME ip current does an autobind in listen, but I'm not sure
>> >> > -.\" if that should be documented.
>> >> >   When a process wants to receive new incoming packets or connections, it
>> >> >   should bind a socket to a local interface address using
>> >> >   .BR bind (2).
>> >> > -Only one IP socket may be bound to any given local (address, port) pair.
>> >> > +In this case, only one IP socket may be bound to any given local
>> >> > +(address, port) pair.
>> >> >   When
>> >> >   .B INADDR_ANY
>> >> >   is specified in the bind call, the socket will be bound to
>> >> > @@ -82,10 +81,14 @@ is specified in the bind call, the socket will be bound to
>> >> >   local interfaces.
>> >> >   When
>> >> >   .BR listen (2)
>> >> > -or
>> >> > +is called on an unbound socket, the socket is automatically bound
>> >> > +to a random free port with the local address set to
>> >> > +.BR INADDR_ANY .
>> >> > +When
>> >> >   .BR connect (2)
>> >> > -are called on an unbound socket, it is automatically bound to a
>> >> > -random free port with the local address set to
>> >> > +is called on an unbound socket, the socket is automatically bound
>> >> > +to a random free port or an usable shared port with the local address
>> >> > +set to
>> >> >   .BR INADDR_ANY .
>> >> >
>> >> >   A TCP local socket address that has been bound is unavailable for
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Kerrisk
>> Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
>> Author of "The Linux Programming Interface"; http://man7.org/tlpi/
>>
>
> --
> fbl



-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Author of "The Linux Programming Interface"; http://man7.org/tlpi/
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