netdev - Re: Linux driver for Realtek RTL8723AU devices with USB ID 0bda:1724 such as found in Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13

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Message-ID: <20130508162350.GC28080@kroah.com>
Date:	Wed, 8 May 2013 09:23:50 -0700
From:	Greg KH <gregkh@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@...inger.net>
Cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com>,
	'George0505' <george0505@...ltek.com>,
	Joon Ro <joonhyoung.ro@...il.com>
Subject: Re: Linux driver for Realtek RTL8723AU devices with USB ID 0bda:1724
 such as found in Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13

On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:06:44AM -0500, Larry Finger wrote:
> On 05/07/2013 09:32 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >
> >So I can verify that this driver works against 3.8.11 (not against
> >current -linus because of a build failure), and yes, there is Bluetooth
> >in this device.  In fact, it seems to work better than some in-tree
> >drivers I have seen in the past.
> >
> >However, I'm confused as to the above and what it implies for the
> >purpose of the staging tree.  Wasn't the whole point of the staging tree
> >to have a working-but-ugly driver upstream and have the work to clean it
> >up happen in the mainline tree instead of off somewhere.
> 
> Yes, but even staging has some standards.

I have standards?  That's a first :)

> For example, they frown on inclusion of firmware in a massive data
> block in a file in the driver - it should be in a separate file the
> /lib/firmware/ tree.

Sure, that would be "nice", but it's not something that I should reject
a driver for, have I done that?

> In addition, the mainline drivers/net/wireless/ tree is only available
> to devices that use mac80211 for the software-based MAC layer. That
> conversion is a serious effort that may never be done, thus the
> 8723au driver may never leave staging.

That's a bigger deal, but note, some drivers have done it, it is not
impossible.

thanks,

greg k-h
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