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Message-ID: <20130624083505.59bd806e@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net>
Date:	Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:35:05 -0700
From:	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
To:	Mike Rapoport <mike.rapoport@...ellosystems.com>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org, David Stevens <dlstevens@...ibm.com>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@...g.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 2/2] vxlan: allow specifying multiple
 default destinations

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:57:55 +0300
Mike Rapoport <mike.rapoport@...ellosystems.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Stephen Hemminger
> <stephen@...workplumber.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:22:23 +0300
> > Mike Rapoport <mike.rapoport@...ellosystems.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A list of multiple default destinations can be used in environments that
> >> disable multicast on the infrastructure level, e.g. public clouds.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Mike Rapoport <mike.rapoport@...ellosystems.com>
> >> ---
> >>  drivers/net/vxlan.c          | 268 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >>  include/uapi/linux/if_link.h |  17 +++
> >>  2 files changed, 276 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/net/vxlan.c b/drivers/net/vxlan.c
> >> index e5fb6568..f57a0d94 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/net/vxlan.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/net/vxlan.c
> >> @@ -103,6 +103,7 @@ struct vxlan_rdst {
> >>       u32                      remote_vni;
> >>       u32                      remote_ifindex;
> >>       struct list_head         list;
> >> +     struct rcu_head          rcu;
> >>  };
> >
> > The use of remotes_cnt here is not SMP safe.
> > You are using remotes_cnt to size the buffer for dumping, but then the list
> > of remotes might change during the dump.
> 
> The remotes_cnt is used only in netlink callbacks with rtnl_lock held
> and it cannot be modified otherwise, so I don't see why it is not SMP
> safe.
> 
> > There a a couple of alternatives here:
> > 1. Put a hard limit on the number of remotes per MAC.
> > 2. When there are multiple destnations, just dump multiple entries, like
> >    multipath routing does.
> >
> > I prefer #2 because it also allows for a cleaner API on creation.
> >
>

After a few more hours of review, I think the API still needs more work.
The API uses attributes IFLA_VXLAN_REMOTE_NEW and IFLA_VXLAN_REMOTE_DEL to
implement adding and deleting entries. This is contrary to other uses of attributes
in Linux netlink. The convention is that attributes are are descriptors of objects
not verbs. The attributes are reported and used on creation.

The API needs to use the netlink message flags to indicate create, replace and delete
instead. It may mean changes to net/core/rtnetlink.c. I would rather see VXLAN follow
convention as close as possible.

Sorry for being so difficult but once an API is done, it has a long lifetime and other
stuff tends to follow it. I know from experience having made the mistake far
to often..


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