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Message-ID: <20131013111439.GE5790@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Sun, 13 Oct 2013 04:14:39 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
Cc:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...nel.org,
	laijs@...fujitsu.com, dipankar@...ibm.com,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, niv@...ibm.com, tglx@...utronix.de,
	peterz@...radead.org, rostedt@...dmis.org, dhowells@...hat.com,
	edumazet@...gle.com, darren@...art.com, fweisbec@...il.com,
	sbw@....edu, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@....inr.ac.ru>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 07/13] ipv6/ip6_tunnel: Apply
 rcu_access_pointer() to avoid sparse false positive

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 07:42:18PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 06:43:45PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> > > Regarding the volatile access, I hope that the C11 memory model
> > > and enhancements to the compiler will some day provide a better
> > > way to express the semantics of what is tried to express here
> > > (__atomic_store_n/__atomic_load_n with the accompanied memory model,
> > > which could be even weaker to what a volatile access would enfore
> > > now and could guarantee atomic stores/loads).
> > 
> > I just played around a bit more. Perhaps we could try to warn of silly
> > usages of ACCESS_ONCE():
> > 
> > --- a/include/linux/compiler.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/compiler.h
> > @@ -349,7 +349,11 @@ void ftrace_likely_update(struct ftrace_branch_data *f,
> > int val, int expect);
> >   * use is to mediate communication between process-level code and irq/NMI
> >   * handlers, all running on the same CPU.
> >   */
> > -#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
> > +#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*({						\
> > +		compiletime_assert(sizeof(typeof(x)) <= sizeof(typeof(&x)), \
> > +				   "ACCESS_ONCE likely not atomic");	\
> 
> AFAIU, ACCESS_ONCE() is not meant to ensure atomicity of load/store,
> but rather merely ensures that the compiler will not merge nor refetch
> accesses. I don't think the assert check you propose is appropriate with
> respect to the ACCESS_ONCE() semantic.

I am with Mathieu on this one, at least unless there is some set of actual
bugs already in the kernel that these length checks would find.

/me wonders about structs of size 3, 5, 6, and 7...

							Thanx, Paul

> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> > +		(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x);				\
> > +}))
> >  
> >  /* Ignore/forbid kprobes attach on very low level functions marked by this
> >  attribute: */
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_KPROBES
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com
> 

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