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Message-ID: <20131013201102.GD14021@order.stressinduktion.org>
Date:	Sun, 13 Oct 2013 22:11:02 +0200
From:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>
To:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...nel.org,
	laijs@...fujitsu.com, dipankar@...ibm.com,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, niv@...ibm.com, tglx@...utronix.de,
	peterz@...radead.org, rostedt@...dmis.org, dhowells@...hat.com,
	edumazet@...gle.com, darren@...art.com, fweisbec@...il.com,
	sbw@....edu, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@....inr.ac.ru>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 07/13] ipv6/ip6_tunnel: Apply rcu_access_pointer() to avoid sparse false positive

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 04:14:39AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 07:42:18PM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 06:43:45PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> > > > Regarding the volatile access, I hope that the C11 memory model
> > > > and enhancements to the compiler will some day provide a better
> > > > way to express the semantics of what is tried to express here
> > > > (__atomic_store_n/__atomic_load_n with the accompanied memory model,
> > > > which could be even weaker to what a volatile access would enfore
> > > > now and could guarantee atomic stores/loads).
> > > 
> > > I just played around a bit more. Perhaps we could try to warn of silly
> > > usages of ACCESS_ONCE():
> > > 
> > > --- a/include/linux/compiler.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/compiler.h
> > > @@ -349,7 +349,11 @@ void ftrace_likely_update(struct ftrace_branch_data *f,
> > > int val, int expect);
> > >   * use is to mediate communication between process-level code and irq/NMI
> > >   * handlers, all running on the same CPU.
> > >   */
> > > -#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
> > > +#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*({						\
> > > +		compiletime_assert(sizeof(typeof(x)) <= sizeof(typeof(&x)), \
> > > +				   "ACCESS_ONCE likely not atomic");	\
> > 
> > AFAIU, ACCESS_ONCE() is not meant to ensure atomicity of load/store,
> > but rather merely ensures that the compiler will not merge nor refetch
> > accesses. I don't think the assert check you propose is appropriate with
> > respect to the ACCESS_ONCE() semantic.
> 
> I am with Mathieu on this one, at least unless there is some set of actual
> bugs already in the kernel that these length checks would find.

I guess my wording of "ACCESS_ONCE likely not atomic" was misplaced. Something
like volatile access to memory larger than the processor register size is
probably not what you intended. Use atomics or proper locking. ;)
And maybe that is not even correct.

> /me wonders about structs of size 3, 5, 6, and 7...

Checked a x86_64 allyesconfig build with sizes above pointer size and odd
parity and nothing broke.

Greetings,

  Hannes

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