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Message-ID: <CAN1v_Pt9rOGn8zmf+u7MR6-GJPDPswBbuhXu6i=MJVa2mwqNtw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:18:08 -0800
From:	Ravi Patel <rapatel@....com>
To:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Loc Ho <lho@....com>,
	davem@...emloft.net, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Jon Masters <jcm@...hat.com>,
	"patches@....com" <patches@....com>,
	Keyur Chudgar <kchudgar@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/4] misc: xgene: Add support for APM X-Gene SoC Queue
 Manager/Traffic Manager

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> wrote:
> On Friday 10 January 2014, Ravi Patel wrote:
>
>> Do you want any further clarification or document related to QMTM.
>> We want to make sure everyone is on same page, understand and
>> conclude upon that QMTM is a device and and not a bus or a dma
>> engine.
>
> I have a much better understanding now, but there are still a few open
> questions from my side. Let me try to explain in my own words what I
> think is the relevant information (part of this is still guessing).
> It took me a while to figure out what it does from your description,
> and then some more time to see what it's actually good for (as
> opposed to adding complexity).
>
> Please confirm or correct the individual statements in this
> description:
>
> The QMTM serves as a relay for short (a few bytes) messages between
> the OS software and various slave hardware blocks on the SoC.
> The messages are typically but not always DMA descriptors used by the
> slave device used for starting bus master transactions by the slave,
> or for notifying sofware about the competion of a DMA transaction.
>
> The message format is specific to the slave device and the QMTM
> only understands the common header of the message.
>
> OS software sees the messages in cache-coherent memory and does
> not require any cache flushes or MMIO access for inbound messages
> and only a single posted MMIO write for outbound messages.
>
> The queues are likely designed to be per-thread and don't require
> software-side locking.
>
> For outbound messages, the QMTM is the bus master of a device-to-device
> DMA transaction that gets started once a message is queued and the
> device has signaled that it is ready for receiving it. The QMTM needs
> to know the bus address of the device as well as a slave ID for
> the signal pin.
> For inbound messages, the QMTM slave initiates a busmaster transaction
> and needs to know the bus address of its QMTM port, while the QMTM
> needs to know only the slave ID that is associated with the queue.
>
> In addition to those hardware properties, the QMTM driver needs to
> set up a memory buffer for the message queue as seen by the CPU,
> and needs tell the QMTM the location as well as some other
> properties such as the message length.

Your description is correct upto this point.

> For inbound messages, the QMTM serves a similar purpose as an MSI
> controller, ensuring that inbound DMA data has arrived in RAM
> before an interrupt is delivered to the CPU and thereby avoiding
> the need for an expensive MMIO read to serialize the DMA.

For inbound messages, slave device generates message on a completion
of a inbound DMA operation or any relevant operation targeted to the
CPU. The QMTM's role is to just trigger an interrupt to CPU when there
is a new message arrived from a slave device. QMTM doesn't know what
the message was for. It is upto the upper layer drivers to decide how
to process this message.

> The resources managed by the QMTM are both SoC-global (e.g. bus
> bandwidth) and slave specific (e.g. ethernet bandwith or buffer space).
> Global resource management is performed to prevent one slave
> device from monopolizing the system or preventing other slaves
> from making forward progress.
> Examples for local resource management (I had to think about this
> a long time, but probably some of these are wrong) would be
> * balancing between multiple non-busmaster devices connected to
>   a dma-engine
> * distributing incoming ethernet data to the available CPUs based on
>   a flow classifier in the MAC, e.g. by IOV MAC address, VLAN tag
>   or even individual TCP connection depending on the NIC's capabilities.
> * 802.1p flow control for incoming ethernet data based on the amount
>   of data queued up between the MAC and the driver
> * interrupt mitigation for both inbound data and outbound completion,
>   by delaying the IRQ to the OS until multiple messages have arrived
>   or a queue specific amount of time has passed.
> * controlling the amount of outbound buffer space per flow to minimize
>   buffer-bloat between an ethernet driver and the NIC hardware.
> * reordering data from outbound flows based on priority.
>
> This is basically my current interpretation, I hope I got at least
> some of it right this time ;-)

You have got them right. Although we have taken Ethernet examples here,
most of the local resource management apply to other slave devices also.
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