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Message-ID: <1394733448.32465.249.camel@willson.li.ssimo.org>
Date:	Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:57:28 -0400
From:	Simo Sorce <ssorce@...hat.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	jkaluza@...hat.com, lpoetter@...hat.com, kay@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP

On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 10:55 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@...hat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 19:12 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@...hat.com> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 18:21 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@...hat.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 14:19 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@...hat.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Connection time is all we do and can care about.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You have not answered why.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We are going to disclose information to the peer based on policy that
> >> >> > depends on the cgroup the peer is part of. All we care for is who opened
> >> >> > the connection, if the peer wants to pass on that information after it
> >> >> > has obtained it there is nothing we can do, so connection time is all we
> >> >> > really care about.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you give a realistic example?
> >> >>
> >> >> I could say that I'd like to disclose information to processes based
> >> >> on their rlimits at the time they connected, but I don't think that
> >> >> would carry much weight.
> >> >
> >> > We want to be able to show different user's list from SSSD based on the
> >> > docker container that is asking for it.
> >> >
> >> > This works by having libnsss_sss.so from the containerized application
> >> > connect to an SSSD daemon running on the host or in another container.
> >> >
> >> > The only way to distinguish between containers "from the outside" is to
> >> > lookup the cgroup of the requesting process. It has a unique container
> >> > ID, and can therefore be mapped to the appropriate policy that will let
> >> > us decide which 'user domain' to serve to the container.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I can think of at least three other ways to do this.
> >>
> >> 1. Fix Docker to use user namespaces and use the uid of the requesting
> >> process via SCM_CREDENTIALS.
> >
> > This is not practical, I have no control on what UIDs will be used
> > within a container, and IIRC user namespaces have severe limitations
> > that may make them unusable in some situations. Forcing the use of user
> > namespaces on docker to satisfy my use case is not in my power.
> 
> Except that Docker w/o userns is basically completely insecure unless
> selinux or apparmor is in use, so this may not matter.
> 
> >
> >> 2. Docker is a container system, so use the "container" (aka
> >> namespace) APIs.  There are probably several clever things that could
> >> be done with /proc/<pid>/ns.
> >
> > pid is racy, if it weren't I would simply go straight
> > to /proc/<pid>/cgroups ...
> 
> How about:
> 
> open("/proc/self/ns/ipc", O_RDONLY);
> send the result over SCM_RIGHTS?

This needs to work with existing clients, existing clients, don't do
this.

> >> 3. Given that Docker uses network namespaces, I assume that the socket
> >> connection between the two sssd instances either comes from Docker
> >> itself or uses socket inodes.  In either case, the same mechanism
> >> should be usable for authentication.
> >
> > It is a unix socket, ie bind mounted on the container filesystem, not
> > sure network namespaces really come into the picture, and I do not know
> > of a racefree way of knowing what is the namespace of the peer at
> > connect time.
> > Is there a SO_PEER_NAMESPACE option ?
> 
> So give each container its own unix socket.  Problem solved, no?
> 
> --Andy



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