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Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:52:21 +0200
From:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>
To:	David Lamparter <equinox@...c24.net>
Cc:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] ipv6: addrconf: fix mcast route for GRE devices

On Mi, 2014-07-30 at 18:31 +0200, David Lamparter wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 06:09:27PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> [cut]
> > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 05:14:42PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> > > > On Mi, 2014-07-30 at 02:55 +0200, David Lamparter wrote:
> > > > > GRE devices, for some reason, were coming up with an autoconfigured
> > > > > address, but no ff00::/8 route in the local table.  This breaks any kind
> > > > > of multicast, in particular OSPFv3, mDNS, - and ND.  In fact, IPv6 only
> > > > > works at all because there is little need for ND on PtP devices.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Adding any other IPv6 address on the device would rectify this issue
> > > > > through inet6_addr_add()/addrconf_add_dev() - and would leave the route
> > > > > around even if the address was later removed.  (This is probably why
> > > > > this issue was not discovered earlier.  AFAICS it has been there from
> > > > > the beginning, e.g. aee80b5 "generate link local address for GRE
> > > > > tunnel")
> > > > 
> > > > Yep, this is poor, but changing this will break user space...
> > > 
> > > How exactly will this break user space?
> > 
> > Because the multicast routes will always be restored after e.g. a route
> > flush or manual route deletion. Scripts might depend on this.
> 
> Sorry, I still don't get it.  Without this patch you end up in an
> inconsistent state, where a LL addr exists, but multicast doesn't work
> (since ff00::/8 is missing from RT6_TABLE_LOCAL).

Sure, people can remove addresses and routes at will.

> Userspace is not supposed to touch RT6_TABLE_LOCAL in general, and, the
> kernel will actually refuse installing the ff00::/8 route into the local
> table from userspace (because there will be other ff00::/8 routes from
> other interfaces, so you get "File exists").  You can delete the route
> (and thus break mcast), but not add it.  The only way to add it is to
> add an address.

People really do flush the routing table.

I'll have a look why the addition of the multicast route throws an
error.

> Not changing this behaviour keeps breaking userspace;  ospf6d among
> other things assumes an interface has working IPv6 when a link-local
> address is present.

Yeah, but in the end, people also can drop specific packets and we
cannot do anything.

Bye,
Hannes

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