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Date:	Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:03:27 +0200
From:	Arend van Spriel <>
To:	Michael Tokarev <>
CC:	<>,
	<>, <>
Subject: Re: BCM4313 & brcmsmac & 3.12: only semi-working?

On 27-08-14 17:27, Arend van Spriel wrote:
> On 08/27/14 12:02, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> 27.08.2014 01:37, Arend van Spriel wrote:
>>> On 08/26/14 18:15, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> []
>>> Well, sorry about that. I did see the other messages fly by and
>>> noticed you were using the wl driver so assumed you were fine with that.
>> That's past already.  I had several issues with wl driver,
>> and current issue is that even the latest (Aug-2014) version
>> of wl driver doesn't work with current kernel.  So I can't
>> really even compare wl and brcmsmac, -- in kernels<  3.16
>> brcmsmac does not work, but wl can't be compiled for 3.16,
>> and using different kernels for comparison is a bit wrong
>> because there may be differences in other areas.
>>>     Admittedly the brcmsmac got very little attention as all our
>>> resources were put on brcmfmac.
>> That happens. :)
>> []
>>> Ok. Let's put frustration aside and make an effort. So could you make
>>> a trace using trace-cmd utility. The log can get quite big. The
>>> brcmsmac driver needs to be built with CONFIG_BRCM_TRACING enabled.
>>> Please execute the following commands (assuming you use ubuntu with
>>> network-manager):
>>> $ sudo stop network-manager
>>> $ sudo insmod brcmfmac.ko
>>> $ sudo trace-cmd record -e brcmsmac:*
>>> In another terminal:
>>> $ sudo start network-manager
>>> The trace-cmd must be stopped using ctrl-c.
>> Okay.  This turned out to be not so simple.
>> My initial attempt indicated that brcmsmac in 3.16 does
>> not work at all.  This isn't actually true - subsequent
>> attempts shows that it works.  I was ready to conclude
>> the problem is fixed (after transferring several gigs
>> of data over wifi, with tracing enabled or disabled,
>> after fresh boot or after reboot from wl-enabled kernel,
>> etc - it all worked.
>> Until I hit the same stall as I described initially, the
>> same which happened numerous times with kernel 3.12 ($subj).
>> After several mins of transferring it stalled.  But this
>> time (unlike with 3.12), it continued after about 30 secs.
> A kernel log (so no trace) of stalling interface might be useful so if
> you can provide that and put a marker in there where you believe it
> stalled that would be great.

Hi Michael,

Did you have any opportunity to create a log file. Got a question from
someone else who got bad bcm4313 behaviour after a certain upgrade. Did
you have the same experience?


>> So, while my initial test of 3.16 indicated the prob is still
>> here, at the same (or even worse) state, I can't really
>> reproduce it, at least in a reliable way.  There's something
>> wrong still, but at least current version is significantly
>> more useful than before (in a hope it wont stall at the
>> very wrong moment exactly ;).
>> There's one more difference between brcmsmac and wl -- with
>> wl, I see significantly better speed, -- it is about 5MB/sec,
>> while with brcmsmac it jumps between 2.0..4.5MB/sec (with
>> 58..65Mbps connection rate in both cases).  Here's a typical
>> iwconfig output for brcmsmac version:
>> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"mjt"
>>            Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point:
>> 64:70:02:29:D9:30
>>            Bit Rate=65 Mb/s   Tx-Power=19 dBm
>>            Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>>            Power Management:off
>>            Link Quality=58/70  Signal level=-61 dBm
>>            Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>>            Tx excessive retries:56355  Invalid misc:472   Missed beacon:0
>> I'll keep trying/testing various cases, in attempt to
>> understand what's going on.  For now, I can't provide the
>> requested traces (it wont be very useful, I guess).
>> BTW, are there other things not implemented in brcmsmac?
>> I see the module reminds about power management, what
>> does it mean?  Anything else missing?
> Well, the wireless twiki has that info [1]. Regarding features the
> important ones that I know are still not there are 40MHz support, and
> power-save. The bcm4313 does not support 40MHz. Community contributions
> added ibss, and ap mode. For P2P and TDLS probably some changes would be
> needed although most of the legwork is done in mac80211.
> Regards,
> Arend
> [1]
>> Thank you!
>> /mjt

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