netdev - Re: [PATCH 06/14] net: dsa: Add support for hardware monitoring

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Message-ID: <20141023165459.GE25190@lunn.ch>
Date:	Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:54:59 +0200
From:	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc:	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/14] net: dsa: Add support for hardware monitoring

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 09:27:55AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 03:47:06PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > >>+static DEVICE_ATTR_RO(temp1_input);
> > > >
> > > >You probably want the number of temperature sensors to come from the
> > > >switch driver, and support arbitrary number of temperature sensors?
> > > 
> > > In that case we would need the number of sensors, pass a sensor index,
> > > and create a dynamic number of attributes. The code would get much more
> > > complex without real benefit unless there is such a chip 
> > 
> > We are two different use cases here:
> > 
> > One switch chip with multiple temperature sensors
> 
> I understand this case. However, quite frankly, I consider this quite
> unlikely to happen.
> 
> > Multiple switch chips, each with its own temperature sensor.
> > 
> I don't really see the problem. My understanding is that each of those
> switch chips will instantiate itself, dsa_switch_setup will be called,
> which will create a new hwmon device with its own sensors. That is
> how all other hwmon devices do it, and it works just fine.
> Why would that approach not work for switches in the dsa infrastructure ?
> Am I missing something ?
> 
> If the concern or assumption is that there can not be more than one
> "temp1_input" attribute, here is an example from a system with a large
> number of chips with temperature sensors.
> 
> root@...-xb49:/sys/class/hwmon# ls hwmon*/temp1_input
> hwmon1/temp1_input   hwmon22/temp1_input  hwmon35/temp1_input
> hwmon10/temp1_input  hwmon23/temp1_input  hwmon36/temp1_input
> hwmon11/temp1_input  hwmon24/temp1_input  hwmon37/temp1_input
> hwmon12/temp1_input  hwmon25/temp1_input  hwmon38/temp1_input
> hwmon13/temp1_input  hwmon26/temp1_input  hwmon39/temp1_input
> hwmon14/temp1_input  hwmon27/temp1_input  hwmon4/temp1_input
> hwmon15/temp1_input  hwmon28/temp1_input  hwmon40/temp1_input
> hwmon16/temp1_input  hwmon29/temp1_input  hwmon5/temp1_input
> hwmon17/temp1_input  hwmon3/temp1_input   hwmon6/temp1_input
> hwmon18/temp1_input  hwmon30/temp1_input  hwmon7/temp1_input
> hwmon19/temp1_input  hwmon31/temp1_input  hwmon8/temp1_input
> hwmon2/temp1_input   hwmon32/temp1_input  hwmon9/temp1_input
> hwmon20/temp1_input  hwmon33/temp1_input
> hwmon21/temp1_input  hwmon34/temp1_input

So are you saying it is impossible to map a hwmon device to a physical
sensor? I can know there is a hotspot somewhere in my machine, but it
is impossible to figure where that hot spot is using hwmon?

> > If we are not doing the generic implementation now, how about avoiding
> > an ABI break in the future, by hard coding the sensors with .0.0 on
> > the end?
> 
> I am a little lost. What would that be for, and what would the ABI breakage
> be ?

I assumed you would want to be able to map a temperature sensor to a
switch package. You want a unique identifier, maybe its hwman name? So
name "dsa.0.0" would be the temperature sensor 0 on switch 0. If we
don't name them like this now, whenever somebody does add support for
this will cause that name to change and we have an ABI break.


     Andrew



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