Date:	Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:46:02 -0800
From:	roopa <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>
To:	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
CC:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	davem@...emloft.net, vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com,
	jerome.oufella@...oirfairelinux.com, andrew@...n.ch,
	cphealy@...il.com, Scott Feldman <sfeldma@...il.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: implement HW bridging operations

On 2/19/15, 6:03 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 19/02/15 16:09, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 03:50:53PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>> On 19/02/15 09:46, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:27:23AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/15 21:59, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:48:19PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/02/15 11:26, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>>>>>> Update the Broadcom Starfighter 2 switch driver to implement the
>>>>>>>> join/leave/stp_update callbacks required for basic hardware bridging
>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is not much to be done at the driver level but translating the
>>>>>>>> STP state from Linux to their HW values.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joining a bridge means that the joining port and the other port members
>>>>>>>> need to be in the same VLAN membership as the CPU, while leaving the
>>>>>>>> bridge puts the port back into a separate VLAN membership with only the
>>>>>>>> CPU.
>>>>>>> I found a couple additional issues while testing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - manipulating UP/DOWN state of interfaces that are part of a bridge
>>>>>>> would not restore their bridge membership
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - removing an interface from a bridge and bringing it back up would
>>>>>>> leave it in blocked state
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this a problem with your implementation for sf2 or a generic problem
>>>>>> with the first patch, such as some missing state transitions ?
>>>>> This is more of a side effect of having HW (an Ethernet switch) that can
>>>>> really block a given port, based on last night's discussion with Roopa,
>>>>> we can either fix this at the DSA level (in our case) or better fix this
>>>>> at the bridge layer, I will propose a fix for this shortly.
>>>>>
>>>>>> For sf2, you might have to set the port state as well as the bridge
>>>>>> association in the port_setup function. That is of course just a
>>>>>> wild guess.
>>>>> Right, that's what I ended up doing. Thanks!
>>>> Great.
>>>>
>>>> Another question: How do you handle flushing the forwarding database ?
>>>>
>>>> My current code for mv88e6352 flushes the forwarding database for a bridge
>>>> group if the port association for that group changes (whenever a port joins
>>>> or leaves a group, or whenever the state of a port in a group changes).
>>>> There is, however, another situation where the forwarding database may
>>>> have to be flushed - essentially on each topology change.
>>>>
>>>> How do you handle this situation ? Is it a real problem or do I just
>>>> imagine that it is ?
>>> This is a real problem, for once I was working under the assumption that
>>> the SF2 hardware was doing an automatic FDB flushing, but after
>>> re-reading the documentation, this is not the case. My lab network does
>>> not have many stations and I certainly did not catch that case.
>> The rocker code implements the fdb flush operation pretty much the same
>> way I do, so I seem to be doing something right.
>>
>> Not sure yet what to do about setting the fdb aging time. I don't see a
>> mechanism to do that. No idea how important that is.
>>
>> I think we'll also need support for ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid, ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid,
>> ndo_fdb_add, ndo_fdb_del, and ndo_fdb_dump. Have you thought about those ?
> Yes, we will need those as well, although for now, I think we might just
> be able to get basic HW bridging to work with the current patches +
> driver specific FDB flushing, what do you think?
>
> The only part thing that I cannot really map to HW switches today is
> that the ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid() does not specify whether the VLAN id you
> are adding is tagged or untagged (aka native). You can configure that
> using the "bridge" sub-command from iproute2, but I am not sure how this
> translates in terms of programming the hardware with the tagged/untagged
> bit yet.
>
> Maybe we should update ndo_vlan_rx_add_vid() to allow for a tag bit to
> specified?
You should be able to use switchdev api 
netdev_switch_port_bridge_setlink/dellink that in turn calls 
ndo_bridge_setlink/dellink for this.
PF_BRIDGE dellink/setlink calls from the user for vlan add/dels are 
mapped to these ndos. These include the vlan tagged/untagged/pvid flags.
(IFLA_BRIDGE_VLAN_INFO which is of type struct  bridge_vlan_info).
But note that these are only available with the vlan filtering bridge.
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