netdev - RE: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5] ixgbe: Add module parameter to disable VLAN filter

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Message-ID: <7F861DC0615E0C47A872E6F3C5FCDDBD05EB9F5A@BPXM14GP.gisp.nec.co.jp>
Date:	Wed, 27 May 2015 01:11:50 +0000
From:	Hiroshi Shimamoto <h-shimamoto@...jp.nec.com>
To:	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@...hat.com>,
	"jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>,
	"intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org" <intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org>
CC:	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"sy.jong.choi@...el.com" <sy.jong.choi@...el.com>,
	"ben@...adent.org.uk" <ben@...adent.org.uk>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5] ixgbe: Add module parameter to
 disable VLAN filter

> On 05/21/2015 06:10 AM, Hiroshi Shimamoto wrote:
> > From: Hiroshi Shimamoto <h-shimamoto@...jp.nec.com>
> >
> > Introduce module parameter "disable_hw_vlan_filter" to disable HW VLAN
> > filter on ixgbe module load.
> >
> >  From the hardware limitation, there are only 64 VLAN entries for HW VLAN
> > filter, and it leads to limit the number of VLANs up to 64 among PF and
> > VFs. For SDN/NFV case, we need to handle unlimited VLAN packets on VF.
> > In such case, every VLAN packet can be transmitted to each VF.
> >
> > When we try to make VLAN devices on VF, the 65th VLAN registration fails
> > and never be able to receive a packet with that VLAN tag.
> > If we do the below command on VM, ethX.65 to ethX.100 cannot be created.
> >    # for i in `seq 1 100`; do \
> >      ip link add link ethX name ethX.$i type vlan id $i; done
> >
> > There is a capability to disable HW VLAN filter and that makes all VLAN
> > tagged packets can be transmitted to every VFs. After VLAN filter stage,
> > unicast packets are transmitted to VF which has the MAC address same as
> > the transmitting packet.
> >
> > With this patch and "disable_hw_vlan_filter=1", we can use unlimited
> > number of VLANs on VF.
> >
> > Disabling HW VLAN filter breaks some NIC features such as DCB and FCoE.
> > DCB and FCoE are disabled when HW VLAN filter is disabled by this module
> > parameter.
> > Because of that reason, the administrator has to know that before turning
> > off HW VLAN filter.
> 
> You might also want to note that it makes the system susceptible to
> broadcast/multicast storms since it eliminates any/all VLAN isolation.
> So a broadcast or multicast packet on one VLAN is received on ALL
> interfaces regardless of their VLAN configuration. In addition the
> current VF driver is likely to just receive the packet as untagged, see
> ixgbevf_process_skb_fields().  As a result one or two VFs can bring the
> entire system to a crawl by saturating the PCIe bus via
> broadcast/multicast traffic since there is nothing to prevent them from
> talking to each other over VLANs that are no longer there.

that's right.

On the other hand, an untagged packet is not isolated,
doesn't it same broadcast/multicast storm on untagged network?

> 
> For the sake of backwards compatibility I would say that a feature like
> this should be mutually exclusive with SR-IOV as well since it will
> cause erratic behavior.  The VF will receive requests from all VLANs
> thinking the traffic is untagged, and then send replies back to VLAN 0
> even though that isn't where the message originated.

Sorry, I couldn't catch the above part.
Could you explain a bit more?

thanks,
Hiroshi

> Until the VF issue
> is fixed this type of feature is a no-go.

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