netdev - Re: [PATCH v1 1/6] net: Generalize udp based tunnel offload

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Message-ID: <20151209173842.GA18097@ast-mbp.thefacebook.com>
Date:	Wed, 9 Dec 2015 09:38:44 -0800
From:	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>
To:	Thomas Graf <tgraf@...g.ch>
Cc:	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@...atatu.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
	Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	Jesse Gross <jesse@...nel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Anjali Singhai Jain <anjali.singhai@...el.com>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kiran Patil <kiran.patil@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/6] net: Generalize udp based tunnel offload

On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 01:58:57PM +0100, Thomas Graf wrote:
> 
> So if the goal is to make the intent available to the hardware in
> a format which both the kernel and the hardware can draw the same
> conclusions from, wouldn't something like P4 + BPF derived from P4
> be a possibly better fit? There is discussion on stateful P4
> processing now.

p4 is a high level language and absolutely not suitable for such purpose.
bpf as intermediate representation can be generated from p4 or C or other
language. There is room to innovate in the language definition on top
and in HW design at the bottom. That's the most flexible model.

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