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Date:	Sat, 27 Feb 2016 04:14:44 +0100
From:	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To:	Kevin Smith <kevin.smith@...csyscorp.com>
Cc:	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"kernel@...oirfairelinux.com" <kernel@...oirfairelinux.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	Sergei Shtylyov <sergei.shtylyov@...entembedded.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@...libre.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@....linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 7/9] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: restore VLANTable map
 control

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:47:38PM +0000, Kevin Smith wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> On 02/26/2016 04:35 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:12:28PM +0000, Kevin Smith wrote:
> >> Hi Vivien, Andrew,
> >>
> >> On 02/26/2016 03:37 PM, Vivien Didelot wrote:
> >>> Here, 5 is the CPU port and 6 is a DSA port.
> >>>
> >>> After joining ports 0, 1, 2 in the same bridge, we end up with:
> >>>
> >>> Port  0  1  2  3  4  5  6
> >>>     0   -  *  *  -  -  *  *
> >>>     1   *  -  *  -  -  *  *
> >>>     2   *  *  -  -  -  *  *
> >>>     3   -  -  -  -  -  *  *
> >>>     4   -  -  -  -  -  *  *
> >>>     5   *  *  *  *  *  -  *
> >>>     6   *  *  *  *  *  *  -
> >> The case I am concerned about is if the switch connected over DSA in
> >> this example has a WAN port on it, which can legitimately route to the
> >> CPU on port 5 but should not route to the LAN ports 0, 1, and 2.  Does
> >> this VLAN allow direct communication between the WAN and LAN?  Or is
> >> this prevented by DSA or some other mechanism?
> > A typical WIFI access point with a connection to a cable modem.
> >
> > So in linux you have interfaces like
> >
> > lan0, lan1, lan2, lan3, wan0
> >
> > DSA provides you these interface. And by default they are all
> > separated. There is no path between them. You can consider them as
> > being separate physical ethernet cards, just like all other interfaces
> > in linux.
> >
> > What you would typically do is:
> >
> > brctl addbr br0
> > brctl addif br0 lan0
> > brctl addif br0 lan1
> > brctl addif br0 lan2
> > brctl addif br0 lan3
> >
> > to create a bridge between the lan ports. The linux kernel will then
> > push this bridge configuration down into the hardware, so the switch
> > can forward frames between these ports.
> >
> > The wan port is not part of the bridge, so there is no L2 path to the
> > WAN port. You need to do IP routing on the CPU.
> >
> > Linux takes the stance that switch ports interfaces should act just
> > like any other linux interface and you configure them in the normal
> > linux way.
> >
> >      Andrew
> 
> Thanks for the explanation.  I am a bit befuddled by the combination of 
> all the possible configurations of the switch and how they interact with 
> Linux.  :)  I think I understand what is happening now.

You might also be looking at this the wrong way around. It is best to
think of the switch as a hardware accelerator. It offers functions to
the linux network stack to accelerate part of the linux network
stack. We only push out to the hardware functions it is capable of
accelerating. What it cannot accelerate stays in software. Think of it
as a GPU, but for networking...

	      Andrew