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Date:   Fri, 2 Sep 2016 10:08:54 -0700
From:   Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार) 
        <maheshb@...gle.com>
To:     Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:     Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
        Mahesh Bandewar <mahesh@...dewar.net>,
        Jay Vosburgh <j.vosburgh@...il.com>,
        Andy Gospodarek <gospo@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        Veaceslav Falico <vfalico@...il.com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] bonding: Fix bonding crash

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 18:25 +0200, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>
>> Understand the reason. All I say is we tried hard (I surely did) in
>> the past to remove bonding specific quirks and now we are adding one.
>> And the simple reason is that the code is such a mess.
>>
I would not qualify this as bonding specific change! The check of you can
really use the interface is simple enough, and can be used by other virtual
drivers (e.g. macvlan, ipvlan, vrf etc.). Waiting until
rx_handler_register() can be
called in your code and then try to do rollback is bad. Also doing
register() early
has it's own consequences. On contrary, I would argue that this is much cleaner.

Agreed that bonding-driver has become a monster but that doesn't mean we
should not fix issues. This argument would be valid when we are
dealing with last
couple installations / use cases of bonding and everyone else has moved to
alternatives. Unfortunately we are not there yet :(

>> Just use team instead and you'll be fine. You can "google" it :)
>
> Sure, please join _our_ team and make all the needed changes in user
> land.
>
:) Cannot put it more eloquently than Eric did but we would (in
theory) love to move
to team-driver, but logistics don't support this (yet!).

> The kernel part of it is epsilon compared to all the control part (ie
> talk to the various Google switches.), and monitoring.
>
> I am fine to leave the bug in upstream bonding driver, if you really
> want to force people out of bonding land !
>
> Here an automated test simply used macvlan and did not remove the
> macvlan before enslaving the netdev again in a bonding, we already fixed
> the test, because it is faster than deploying new kernels anyway.
>
>
>

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