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Date:   Fri, 2 Sep 2016 19:15:07 +0200
From:   Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
To:     Mahesh Bandewar
         (महेश बंडेवार) <maheshb@...gle.com>
Cc:     Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
        Mahesh Bandewar <mahesh@...dewar.net>,
        Jay Vosburgh <j.vosburgh@...il.com>,
        Andy Gospodarek <gospo@...ulusnetworks.com>,
        Veaceslav Falico <vfalico@...il.com>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] bonding: Fix bonding crash

Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 07:08:54PM CEST, maheshb@...gle.com wrote:
>On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2016-09-02 at 18:25 +0200, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>
>>> Understand the reason. All I say is we tried hard (I surely did) in
>>> the past to remove bonding specific quirks and now we are adding one.
>>> And the simple reason is that the code is such a mess.
>>>
>I would not qualify this as bonding specific change! The check of you can
>really use the interface is simple enough, and can be used by other virtual
>drivers (e.g. macvlan, ipvlan, vrf etc.). Waiting until
>rx_handler_register() can be
>called in your code and then try to do rollback is bad. Also doing
>register() early
>has it's own consequences. On contrary, I would argue that this is much cleaner.

Fair enough. Would be great to do this in all other rx_handler users so
we are consistent. Thanks!


>
>Agreed that bonding-driver has become a monster but that doesn't mean we
>should not fix issues. This argument would be valid when we are
>dealing with last
>couple installations / use cases of bonding and everyone else has moved to
>alternatives. Unfortunately we are not there yet :(
>
>>> Just use team instead and you'll be fine. You can "google" it :)
>>
>> Sure, please join _our_ team and make all the needed changes in user
>> land.
>>
>:) Cannot put it more eloquently than Eric did but we would (in
>theory) love to move
>to team-driver, but logistics don't support this (yet!).
>
>> The kernel part of it is epsilon compared to all the control part (ie
>> talk to the various Google switches.), and monitoring.
>>
>> I am fine to leave the bug in upstream bonding driver, if you really
>> want to force people out of bonding land !
>>
>> Here an automated test simply used macvlan and did not remove the
>> macvlan before enslaving the netdev again in a bonding, we already fixed
>> the test, because it is faster than deploying new kernels anyway.
>>
>>
>>

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