netdev - Re: [net-next PATCH] net: netlink messages for HW addr programming

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Date:   Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:49:59 +0200
From:   Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
To:     Roopa Prabhu <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>
Cc:     Patrick Ruddy <pruddy@...cade.com>,
        "stephen@...workplumber.org" <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Luca Boccassi <lboccass@...cade.com>,
        "alexander.h.duyck@...el.com" <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
        Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sven@...cade.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH] net: netlink messages for HW addr programming

Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 07:31:27AM CEST, roopa@...ulusnetworks.com wrote:
>On 9/19/16, 7:46 AM, Patrick Ruddy wrote:
>> On Sun, 2016-09-18 at 07:51 -0700, Roopa Prabhu wrote:
>>> On 9/15/16, 9:48 AM, Patrick Ruddy wrote:
>>>> Add RTM_NEWADDR and RTM_DELADDR netlink messages with family
>>>> AF_UNSPEC to indicate interest in specific unicast and multicast
>>>> hardware addresses. These messages are sent when addresses are
>>>> added or deleted from the appropriate interface driver.
>>>> Added AF_UNSPEC GETADDR function to allow the netlink notifications
>>>> to be replayed to avoid loss of state due to application start
>>>> ordering or restart.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Patrick Ruddy <pruddy@...cade.com>
>>>> ---
>>> RTM_NEWADDR and RTM_DELADDR are not used to add these entries to the kernel.
>>> so, it seems a bit wrong to use RTM_NEWADDR and RTM_DELADDR to notify them to
>>> userspace and also to request a special dump of these addresses.
>>>
>>> This could just be a new nested netlink attribute in the existing link dump ?
>> Hi Roopa
>>
>> Thanks for the review. I did initially code this using NEW/DEL/GET_LINK
>> messages but was asked to change to to ADDR messages by Stephen
>> Hemminger (cc'd). 
>>
>> However I agree that these addresses fall between the LINK and ADDR
>> areas so I'm happy to change this if we can reach some consensus on the
>> format.
>>
>ok, thanks for the history. yes, they do lie in a weird spot.

They are l2 addresses, they should be threated accordingly. Am I missing
something?


>the general convention for other rtnl registrations seems to be
>AF_UNSPEC family means include all supported families. thats where this seems a bit odd.
>
>On the other hand, one reason I see where using RTM_*ADDR will be useful for this is if we wanted
>to provide a way to add these uc and mc address via ip addr add in the future.
>ip addr add <lladdr> dev eth0
>
>Does this patch allow that in the future ?

This shoul go under ip link I believe. "ip addr" is for l3.


>
>also, will these l2 addresses now show up in 'ip addr show' output ?.
>
>thanks,
>Roopa
>