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Message-ID: <20161117091638.5fab8494@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:16:38 +0100
From:   Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
To:     Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:     Rick Jones <rick.jones2@....com>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org\" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, brouer@...hat.com"@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Netperf UDP issue with connected sockets

On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:34:09 -0800
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 23:40 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> 
> > Using -R 1 does not seem to help remove __ip_select_ident()
> > 
> > Samples: 56K of event 'cycles', Event count (approx.): 78628132661
> >   Overhead  Command        Shared Object        Symbol
> > +    9.11%  netperf        [kernel.vmlinux]     [k] __ip_select_ident
> > +    6.98%  netperf        [kernel.vmlinux]     [k] _raw_spin_lock
> > +    6.21%  swapper        [mlx5_core]          [k] mlx5e_poll_tx_cq
> > +    5.03%  netperf        [kernel.vmlinux]     [k] copy_user_enhanced_fast_string
> > +    4.69%  netperf        [kernel.vmlinux]     [k] __ip_make_skb
> > +    4.63%  netperf        [kernel.vmlinux]     [k] skb_set_owner_w
> > +    4.15%  swapper        [kernel.vmlinux]     [k] __slab_free
> > +    3.80%  netperf        [mlx5_core]          [k] mlx5e_sq_xmit
> > +    2.00%  swapper        [kernel.vmlinux]     [k] sock_wfree
> > +    1.94%  netperf        netperf              [.] send_data
> > +    1.92%  netperf        netperf              [.] send_omni_inner  
> 
> Check "ss -nu"  ?
> 
> You will see if sockets are connected (present in ss output or not)

Tested different versions of netperf, commands used below signature:

 netperf-2.6.0: connected "broken"
 netperf-2.7.0: connected works
 SVN-r709     : connected works

I noticed there is a Send-Q, and the perf-top2 is _raw_spin_lock, which
looks like it comes from __dev_queue_xmit(), but we know from
experience that this stall is actually caused by writing the
tailptr/doorbell in the HW.  Thus, this could benefit a lot from
bulk/xmit_more into the qdisc layer.


> UDP being connected does not prevent __ip_select_ident() being used.
> 
>     if ((iph->frag_off & htons(IP_DF)) && !skb->ignore_df) {
> 
> So you need IP_DF being set, and skb->ignore_df being 0

Thanks for explaining that! :-)

http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/net/ip.h?v=4.8#L332
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/net/ipv4/ip_output.c?v=4.8#L449

Netperf UDP_STREAM default send 64K packets that get fragmented...
which actually is very unfortunate because people end-up testing a code
path in the kernel they didn't expect.  That is why I use the
option "-- -m 1472".


> time to try IP_MTU_DISCOVER ;)  

To Rick, maybe you can find a good solution or option with Eric's hint,
to send appropriate sized UDP packets with Don't Fragment (DF).

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  Author of http://www.iptv-analyzer.org
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

Testing with ss -nua

$ /usr/local/stow/netperf-2.6.0-demo/bin/netperf -H 198.18.50.1 -t UDP_STREAM -l 3 -- -m 1472 -n -N > /dev/null & sleep 1; ss -una

State      Recv-Q Send-Q       Local Address:Port          Peer Address:Port
UNCONN     0      11520                    *:54589                    *:*

$ /usr/local/stow/netperf-2.7.0-demo/bin/netperf -H 198.18.50.1 -t UDP_STREAM -l 3 -- -m 1472 -n -N > /dev/null & sleep 1; ss -una
State      Recv-Q Send-Q       Local Address:Port          Peer Address:Port
ESTAB      0      18432          198.18.50.3:46803          198.18.50.1:51851

$ ~/tools/netperf2-svn/src/netperf -H 198.18.50.1 -t UDP_STREAM -l 3 -- -m 1472 -n -N > /dev/null & sleep 1; ss -una
State      Recv-Q Send-Q       Local Address:Port          Peer Address:Port
ESTAB      0      43776          198.18.50.3:42965          198.18.50.1:51948

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