Message-ID: <5988C55B.60204@gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:54:03 -0700
From:   John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
To:     Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
CC:     jhs@...atatu.com, xiyou.wangcong@...il.com, davem@...emloft.net,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, mlxsw@...lanox.com
Subject: Re: Qdisc->u32_node - licence to kill

On 08/07/2017 12:06 PM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 07:47:14PM CEST, john.fastabend@...il.com wrote:
>> On 08/07/2017 09:41 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> Hi Jamal/Cong/David/all.
>>>
>>> Digging in the u32 code deeper now. I need to get rid of tp->q for shared
>>> blocks, but I found out about this:
>>>
>>> struct Qdisc {
>>> 	......
>>>         void                    *u32_node;
>>> 	......
>>> };
>>>
>>> Yeah, ugly. u32 uses it to store some shared data, tp_c. It actually
>>> stores a linked list of all hashtables added to one qdiscs.
>>>
>>> So basically what you have is, you have 1 root ht per prio/pref. Then
>>> you can have multiple hts, linked from any other ht, does not matter in
>>> which prio/pref they are.
>>>
>>
>> We can create arbitrary hash tables here independent of prio/pref via
>> TCA_U32_DIVISOR. Then these can be linked to other hash tables via
>> TCA_U32_LINK commands.
> 
> Yeah, that's what I thought.
> 
> 
>>
>> prio/pref does not really play any part here from my reading, except as
>> a further specifier in the walk callbacks. Making it a useful filter on
>> dump operations.
> 
> Not correct. prio/pref is one level up priority, independent on specific
> cls implementation. You can have cls_u32 instance on prio 10 and
> cls_flower instance on prio 20. Both work.

ah right, lets make sure I got this right then (its been awhile since I've
read this code). So the tcf_ctl_tfilter hook walks classifiers, inserting the
classifier by prio. Then tcf_classify walks the list of classifiers looking
for any matches, specifically any return codes it recognizes or a return code
greater than zero. u32 though has this link notion that allows users to jump
to other u32 classifiers that are in this list, because it has a global hash
table list. So the per prio classifier isolation is not true in u32 case.

> 
> In fact, the current u32 "linking" ignores the upper level
> prio/pref and breakes user assumptions when he inserts rules with
> specific prio.
> 
> 

hmm yep, I guess users of u32 have a "different" set of assumptions when
working with u32 hash tables than the rest of the classifiers.

>>
>>> Do I understand that correctly that prio/pref only has meaning if
>>> linking does not take place, because if there is linking, the prio/pref
>>> of inserted rule is simply ignored?
>>
>> I think even then the prio/pref meaning is dubious, from u32_change,
> 
> Please see tc_ctl_tfilter. That is where prio/pref is processed. What
> you describe is one level down.
> 

got it.

> 
>>
>>                for (pins = rtnl_dereference(*ins); pins;
>>                     ins = &pins->next, pins = rtnl_dereference(*ins))
>>                        if (TC_U32_NODE(handle) < TC_U32_NODE(pins->handle))
>>                                break;
>>
>> I think the list insert is done via handle not via prio/pref.
>>
>>>
>>> That is the most confusing thing I saw in net/sched/ so far. 
>>> Is this a bug? Sounds like one.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think this is a bug at very least I don't see how we can
>> change it without breaking users. I know people depend on the hash map
>> capabilities and linking logic.
> 
> Do they insert rules into multiple hashtables with different prio? Why?
> What is the usecase?
> 

Single u32 classifier with multiple hash tables linked together I would
think is the normal way. I guess because the API never disallowed it
and the user api is a bit tricky its possible users may use multiple prios,
but probably it is not needed.

Maybe Jamal has some use case where this is required?

> 
>>
>>> Did someone introduce *u32_node (formerly static struct tc_u_common
>>> *u32_list;) just to allow this weirdness?
>>>
>>> Can I just remove this shared tp_c and make the linking to other
>>> hashtables only possible within the same prio/pref? That would make
>>> sense to me.
>>>
>>
>> The idea to make linking hash tables only possible within the same
>> prio/pref will break existing programs. We can't do this its part of
>> UAPI now and people depend on it.
> 
> That's why I asked if that is a bug. I still feel it is. But I
> definitelly understand your concern. I'm just trying to figure out how
> to resolve this misdesign :(
> 

I don't have a good argument for the current design, but just want to be
sure we don't break existing users.

.John

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