netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device

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Message-ID: <20180228160647-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date:   Wed, 28 Feb 2018 16:32:44 +0200
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
Cc:     Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl>,
        Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>,
        Sridhar Samudrala <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>,
        Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        virtio-dev@...ts.oasis-open.org,
        "Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@...el.com>,
        "Duyck, Alexander H" <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
        Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>,
        Siwei Liu <loseweigh@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a
 passthru device

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 08:08:39AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:41:49PM CET, kubakici@...pl wrote:
> >On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:16:21 -0800, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> >> Basically we need some sort of PCI or PCIe topology mapping for the
> >> devices that can be translated into something we can communicate over
> >> the communication channel. 
> >
> >Hm.  This is probably a completely stupid idea, but if we need to
> >start marshalling configuration requests/hints maybe the entire problem
> >could be solved by opening a netlink socket from hypervisor?  Even make
> >teamd run on the hypervisor side...
> 
> Interesting. That would be more trickier then just to fwd 1 genetlink
> socket to the hypervisor.
> 
> Also, I think that the solution should handle multiple guest oses. What
> I'm thinking about is some generic bonding description passed over some
> communication channel into vm. The vm either use it for configuration,
> or ignores it if it is not smart enough/updated enough.

For sure, we could build virtio-bond to pass that info to guests.

Such an advisory mechanism would not be a replacement for the mandatory
passthrough fallback flag proposed, but OTOH it's much more flexible.

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MST