netdev - Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available

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Message-ID: <20180304055802-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date:   Sun, 4 Mar 2018 06:00:07 +0200
From:   "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:     Siwei Liu <loseweigh@...il.com>
Cc:     "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>,
        Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>,
        Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
        Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, virtio-dev@...ts.oasis-open.org,
        "Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@...el.com>,
        "Duyck, Alexander H" <alexander.h.duyck@...el.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@...pl>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use
 VF datapath when available

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 02:26:48PM -0800, Siwei Liu wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@...hat.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:44:56PM -0800, Siwei Liu wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@...hat.com> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 11:52:27AM -0800, Samudrala, Sridhar wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 3/2/2018 11:41 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 07:26:25AM -0800, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> >> >> > > The design limits things to a 1:1 relationship since we just have the
> >> >> > > child and backup pointers, but I don't think I am seeing exception
> >> >> > > handling to prevent us from overwriting the child pointers so there
> >> >> > > may be a leak there.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > - Alex
> >> >> > In fact maintaining a list in that case would be nicer, and
> >> >> > just use an arbitrary one.
> >> >> > E.g. one can see how a user wanting to swap device 1 for device 2
> >> >> > might first add device 2 with same MAC then drop device 1.
> >> >>
> >> >> It should be possible to swap VF1 with VF2 by
> >> >> 1.- enabling virtio link
> >> >> 2.- unplugging VF1
> >> >> 3.- plugging VF2
> >> >> 4.- disabling virtio link
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > True, but it isn't hard to avoid breakage if user
> >> > swapped steps 2 and 3. No need to make it more
> >> > fragile that it has to be.
> >>
> >> The migration case, VF2 is associated with another PF on another
> >> machine (destination), I wonder how it is possible.
> >
> > E.g. you want to remove the PF so you unplug the VF
> > then add another VF of the same PF.
> >
> >> Even with local plugging of VF2 on the same PF, the MAC address
> >> requirement (VF1's == VF2's) would fail the MAC address assignment on
> >> VF2.
> >>
> >> -Siwei
> >
> > Why would it fail? These are separate cards.
> 
> OK. I realized that you may talk about assigning a VF on a diffferent
> PF (VF1 on PF1 while VF2 on PF2). And we might assign a pass-through
> device rather than a VF. Yes, it's indeed possible that may happen but
> I take it as a further step down (another patch maybe) as it would
> involve changes to notify the network with gratuituious ARP and/or
> unsolicited ND advertisement of the MAC address association with the
> new port.
> 
> -Siwei

Interesting point. I guess that's a limitation in the curent patch then:
virtio and PT device must be connected to the same physical NIC.
Worth documenting.

> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > MST
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