netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] netlink: ipv4 igmp join notifications

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Message-ID: <CAJieiUgG+mz88jSBOMCk2LXftuxS92-7iJ89x8voxOGRh2V+QQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 3 Sep 2018 16:12:49 -0700
From:   Roopa Prabhu <roopa@...ulusnetworks.com>
To:     Patrick Ruddy <pruddy@...tta.att-mail.com>
Cc:     netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jiří Pírko <jiri@...nulli.us>,
        Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] netlink: ipv4 igmp join notifications

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:18 AM, Patrick Ruddy
<pruddy@...tta.att-mail.com> wrote:
> Hi Roopa
>
> inline
>
> thx
>
> -pr
>
> On Fri, 2018-08-31 at 09:29 -0700, Roopa Prabhu wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:20 AM, Patrick Ruddy
>> <pruddy@...tta.att-mail.com> wrote:
>> > Some userspace applications need to know about IGMP joins from the kernel
>> > for 2 reasons
>> > 1. To allow the programming of multicast MAC filters in hardware
>> > 2. To form a multicast FORUS list for non link-local multicast
>> >    groups to be sent to the kernel and from there to the interested
>> >    party.
>> > (1) can be fulfilled but simply sending the hardware multicast MAC
>> > address to be programmed but (2) requires the L3 address to be sent
>> > since this cannot be constructed from the MAC address whereas the
>> > reverse translation is a standard library function.
>> >
>> > This commit provides addition and deletion of multicast addresses
>> > using the RTM_NEWADDR and RTM_DELADDR messages. It also provides
>> > the RTM_GETADDR extension to allow multicast join state to be read
>> > from the kernel.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Patrick Ruddy <pruddy@...tta.att-mail.com>
>> > ---
>> > v2: fix kbuild warnings.
>>
>> I am still going through the series, but AFAICT, user-space caches listening to
>> RTNLGRP_IPV4_IFADDR will now also get multicast addresses by default ?
>>
>
> Yes that's the crux of this change. It's unfortunate that I could not
> use IFA_MULTICAST to distinguish the SAFI. I suppose the other option
> would be to create a set of new NEW/DEL/GETMULTICAST messages but the
> partial code for RTM_GETMULTICAST in ipv6/mcast.c complicates that
> slightly. Happy to look at it if you think that would be be better.
>

yeah, true. Thinking about this some more, you are adding an interface
for multicast entries learnt via igmp.
There is already a netlink channel for layer2 mc addresses via igmp. I
can't see why that cannot be used.
It is RTM_*MDB msgs. It is currently only available for the bridge.
But, I have a requirement for it to be
available via a vxlan dev...so, I am looking at making it available on
other devices.

Can you check if RTM_*MDB msgs can be made to work for your case ?.

The reason I think it should be possible is because this is similar to
bridge fdb entries.
The bridge fdb api  (RTM_NEWNEIGH with AF_BRIDGE) is overloaded to
notify and dump netdev unicast addresses.
similarly I think the mdb api can be overloaded to notify and dump
netdev multicast addresses (statically added or learnt via igmp)