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Date:   Fri, 22 Feb 2019 13:23:40 -0700
From:   Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
To:     "Ertman, David M" <david.m.ertman@...el.com>
Cc:     "Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@...el.com>,
        "dledford@...hat.com" <dledford@...hat.com>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Ismail, Mustafa" <mustafa.ismail@...el.com>,
        "Kirsher, Jeffrey T" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>,
        "Patil, Kiran" <kiran.patil@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 01/19] net/i40e: Add peer register/unregister to struct
 i40e_netdev_priv

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:13:58PM +0000, Ertman, David M wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:jgg@...pe.ca]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 11:35 AM
> > To: Saleem, Shiraz <shiraz.saleem@...el.com>
> > Cc: dledford@...hat.com; davem@...emloft.net; linux-
> > rdma@...r.kernel.org; netdev@...r.kernel.org; Ismail, Mustafa
> > <mustafa.ismail@...el.com>; Kirsher, Jeffrey T <jeffrey.t.kirsher@...el.com>;
> > Patil, Kiran <kiran.patil@...el.com>; Ertman, David M
> > <david.m.ertman@...el.com>
> > Subject: Re: [RFC v1 01/19] net/i40e: Add peer register/unregister to struct
> > i40e_netdev_priv
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 02:19:33AM +0000, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:
> > > >Subject: Re: [RFC v1 01/19] net/i40e: Add peer register/unregister to
> > > >struct i40e_netdev_priv
> > > >
> > > >On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:10:48AM -0600, Shiraz Saleem wrote:
> > > >> Expose the register/unregister function pointers in the struct
> > > >> i40e_netdev_priv which is accesible via the netdev_priv() interface
> > > >> in the RDMA driver. On a netdev notification in the RDMA driver,
> > > >> the appropriate LAN driver register/unregister functions are
> > > >> invoked from the struct i40e_netdev_priv structure,
> > > >
> > > >Why? In later patches we get an entire device_add() based thing. Why
> > > >do you need two things?
> > > >
> > > >The RDMA driver should bind to the thing that device_add created and
> > > >from there reliably get the netdev. It should not listen to netdev notifiers for
> > attachment.
> > >
> > > In the new IDC mechanism between ice<->irdma, the LAN driver setups up
> > > the device for us and attaches it to a software bus via device_add() based
> > mechanism.
> > > However, RDMA driver binds to the device only when the LAN 'register'
> > > function is called in irdma.
> > 
> > That doesn't make sense. The PCI driver should always create the required
> > struct device attachment point when attachment is becomes possible.
> > 
> > > There is no ordering guarantee in which irdma, i40e and ice modules load.
> > > The netdev notifier is for the case where the irdma loads before i40e
> > > or ice.
> > 
> > You are supposed to use the driver core to handle this ordering.
> > 
> > The pci driver creates the attachment points in the correct order, when they
> > are ready for use, and the driver core will automatically attach registered
> > device drivers to the attachement points, no matter the module load loader.
> > 
> > You will have a netdev and a rdma attachment point, sounds like the RDMA one
> > is created once the netdev is happy.
> > 
> > Maybe what you are missing is a struct device_driver?
> > 
> > Jason
> 
> I am assuming that the term PCI driver is being used to mean the PCI
> subsystem in the kernel.  If this assumption is wrong, please disregard the next
> paragraph, but the following points will still apply.

No, I mean the driver that has the struct pci_driver for the PCI
function. Maybe that is the LAN driver for this case.

> bus, and has no ability to perform the described functions.  The
> irdma driver cannot register with the software bus unless it
> registers with the LAN driver that controls the bus.  The LAN
> driver's register function will call "driver_register(&drv->driver)"
> for the registering irdma driver.

That isn't how to use the driver core.

> Since the irdma driver is a consolidated driver (supports both ice and i40e LAN
> drivers), we cannot guarantee that a given LAN driver will load before the irdma
> driver.  Even if we use module dependencies to make irdma depend on (ice ||
> i40e), we have to consider the situation where a machine will have both an ice
> supported LAN device and an i40e supported LAN device in it.  In this case, the
> load order could be (e.g.) i40e -> irdma -> ice.  The irdma driver can check all
> present netdevs when it loads to find the one that has the correct function
> pointers in it, but it will have no way of knowing that a new software bus was
> created by the second LAN driver to load.

This is why you use the driver core to manage driver binding.

> This is why irdma is listening for netdev notifiers, so that whenever a new netdev
> appears from a LAN driver loading after irdma, the irdma driver can evaluate
> whether the new netdev was created by a LAN driver supported by irdma driver.

Register a device driver to the driver core and wait for the driver
core to call that driver's probe method.

Jason

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