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Message-ID: <CAK8P3a2FLrGXh9iv4eWBX8D_zb7rq5YDErkzDjjHbA5JENHVGw@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:59:33 +0200 From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@...tmann.org> Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Karsten Keil <isdn@...ux-pingi.de>, Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, isdn4linux@...tserv.isdn4linux.de, Paul Bolle <pebolle@...cali.nl>, Holger Schurig <holgerschurig@...glemail.com>, Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...p.cc>, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, gigaset307x-common@...ts.sourceforge.net, Johan Hedberg <johan.hedberg@...il.com>, Bluez mailing list <linux-bluetooth@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] isdn: deprecate non-mISDN drivers On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:24 PM Marcel Holtmann <marcel@...tmann.org> wrote: > >>> When isdn4linux came up in the context of another patch series, I > >>> remembered that we had discussed removing it a while ago. > > NAK. > > I do not care about isdn4linux, but this is a purely CAPI based driver. So removing (or moving to staging) > CAPI support seems rather premature. > > Maybe someone would have started talking to us before trying to move this into staging. It is a > maintained driver. That it is rather simple and hasn’t seen patches in a long time, doesn’t mean > it is not maintained and staging material. I see no reason to tell any user to enable staging tree > to get CMTP support. I can definitely leave out the last patch from the series if we know that there are still users on CMTP. I searched around for a bit but could not find any indication what this is still used for, if anything. What I found were a couple of references of the driver no longer working about 10 years ago: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Archiv/Bluetooth/BlueFritz%21/ https://www.opensuse-forum.de/thread/2776-erledigt-suse-11-2-und-bluefritz/ Is anyone using cmtp for voice or fax services? The use cases from before 2009 that I could find were usually dial-up networking, but that seems pointless now if the only way to get an ISDN connection is to have it routed over the internet. What am I missing? Arnd
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