netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next 00/14] xdp

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Message-ID: <20190814170715.GJ2820@mini-arch>
Date:   Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:07:15 -0700
From:   Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...ichev.me>
To:     Toshiaki Makita <toshiaki.makita1@...il.com>
Cc:     Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>,
        Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@...ronome.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@...atatu.com>,
        Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
        Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        bpf@...r.kernel.org, William Tu <u9012063@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next 00/14] xdp_flow: Flow offload to XDP

On 08/13, Toshiaki Makita wrote:
> * Implementation
> 
> xdp_flow makes use of UMH to load an eBPF program for XDP, similar to
> bpfilter. The difference is that xdp_flow does not generate the eBPF
> program dynamically but a prebuilt program is embedded in UMH. This is
> mainly because flow insertion is considerably frequent. If we generate
> and load an eBPF program on each insertion of a flow, the latency of the
> first packet of ping in above test will incease, which I want to avoid.
Can this be instead implemented with a new hook that will be called
for TC events? This hook can write to perf event buffer and control
plane will insert/remove/modify flow tables in the BPF maps (contol
plane will also install xdp program).

Why do we need UMH? What am I missing?