Date:   Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:19:57 +0200
From:   Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>
To:     Shuah Khan <skhan@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:     Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
        <linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@...com>
Subject: Re: Linux 5.4 - bpf test build fails

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:56:53PM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> On 9/24/19 12:49 PM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 09:48:35AM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> > > On 9/24/19 9:43 AM, Yonghong Song wrote:
> > > > On 9/24/19 8:26 AM, Shuah Khan wrote:
> > > > > Hi Alexei and Daniel,
> > > > > 
> > > > > bpf test doesn't build on Linux 5.4 mainline. Do you know what's
> > > > > happening here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > make -C tools/testing/selftests/bpf/
> > > > > 
> > > > > -c progs/test_core_reloc_ptr_as_arr.c -o - || echo "clang failed") | \
> > > > > llc -march=bpf -mcpu=generic  -filetype=obj -o
> > > > > /mnt/data/lkml/linux_5.4/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/test_core_reloc_ptr_as_arr.o
> > > > > 
> > > > > progs/test_core_reloc_ptr_as_arr.c:25:6: error: use of unknown builtin
> > > > >          '__builtin_preserve_access_index' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
> > > > >            if (BPF_CORE_READ(&out->a, &in[2].a))
> > > > >                ^
> > > > > ./bpf_helpers.h:533:10: note: expanded from macro 'BPF_CORE_READ'
> > > > >                           __builtin_preserve_access_index(src))
> > > > >                           ^
> > > > > progs/test_core_reloc_ptr_as_arr.c:25:6: warning: incompatible integer to
> > > > >          pointer conversion passing 'int' to parameter of type 'const void *'
> > > > >          [-Wint-conversion]
> > > > >            if (BPF_CORE_READ(&out->a, &in[2].a))
> > > > >                ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > ./bpf_helpers.h:533:10: note: expanded from macro 'BPF_CORE_READ'
> > > > >                           __builtin_preserve_access_index(src))
> > > > >                           ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > 1 warning and 1 error generated.
> > > > > llc: error: llc: <stdin>:1:1: error: expected top-level entity
> > > > > clang failed
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also
> > > > > 
> > > > > make TARGETS=bpf kselftest fails as well. Dependency between
> > > > > tools/lib/bpf and the test. How can we avoid this type of
> > > > > dependency or resolve it in a way it doesn't result in build
> > > > > failures?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, Shuah.
> > > > 
> > > > The clang __builtin_preserve_access_index() intrinsic is
> > > > introduced in LLVM9 (which just released last week) and
> > > > the builtin and other CO-RE features are only supported
> > > > in LLVM10 (current development branch) with more bug fixes
> > > > and added features.
> > > > 
> > > > I think we should do a feature test for llvm version and only
> > > > enable these tests when llvm version >= 10.
> > > 
> > > Yes. If new tests depend on a particular llvm revision, the failing
> > > the build is a regression. I would like to see older tests that don't
> > > have dependency build and run.
> > 
> > So far we haven't made it a requirement as majority of BPF contributors
> > that would run/add tests in here are also on bleeding edge LLVM anyway
> > and other CIs like 0-day bot have simply upgraded their LLVM version
> > from git whenever there was a failure similar to the one here so its
> > ensured that really /all/ test cases are running and nothing would be
> > skipped. There is worry to some degree that CIs just keep sticking to
> > an old compiler since tests "just" pass and regressions wouldn't be
> > caught on new releases for those that are skipped. >
> 
> Sure. Bleeding edge is developer mode. We still have to be concerned
> about users that might not upgrade quickly.
> 
> > That said, for the C based tests, it should actually be straight forward
> > to categorize them based on built-in macros like ...
> > 
> > $ echo | clang -dM -E -
> > [...]
> > #define __clang_major__ 10
> > #define __clang_minor__ 0
> > [...]
> 
> What would nice running the tests you can run and then say some tests
> aren't going to run. Is this something you can support?

Once there is such infra in place, should be possible.

> > ... given there is now also bpf-gcc, the test matrix gets bigger anyway,
> > so it might be worth rethinking to run the suite multiple times with
> > different major llvm{,gcc} versions at some point to make sure their
> > generated BPF bytecode keeps passing the verifier, and yell loudly if
> > newer features had to be skipped due to lack of recent compiler version.
> > This would be a super set of /just/ skipping tests and improve coverage
> > at the same time.
> 
> Probably. Reality is most users will just quit and add bpf to "hard to
> run category" of tests.

I don't really worry too much about such users at this point, more important
is that we have a way to test bpf-gcc and llvm behavior side by side to
make sure behavior is consistent and to have some sort of automated CI
integration that runs BPF kselftests before we even stare at a patch for
review. These are right now the two highest prio items from BPF testing
side where we need to get to.

Thanks,
Daniel

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