netdev - Re: [RFC 08/11] net: phy: Allow mdio buses to auto-probe c45 devices

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Message-ID: <20200525134347.GA752669@lunn.ch>
Date:   Mon, 25 May 2020 15:43:47 +0200
From:   Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To:     Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@...linux.org.uk>
Cc:     Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@....com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        davem@...emloft.net, f.fainelli@...il.com, hkallweit1@...il.com,
        madalin.bucur@....nxp.com, calvin.johnson@....nxp.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 08/11] net: phy: Allow mdio buses to auto-probe c45 devices

> > > So i think it would be better to have
> > > 
> > > 	enum {
> > > 		MDIOBUS_UNKNOWN = 0,
> > > 		MDIOBUS_C22,
> > > 		MDIOBUS_C45,
> > > 		MDIOBUS_C45_C22,
> > > 	} bus_capabilities;
> > > 
> > > Describe just what the bus master can support.
> > 
> > Yes, the naming is reasonable and I will update it in the next patch. I went
> > around a bit myself with this naming early on, and the problem I saw was
> > that a C45 capable master, can have C45 electrical phy's that only respond
> > to c22 requests (AFAIK).
> 
> If you have a master that can only generate clause 45 cycles, and
> someone is daft enough to connect a clause 22 only PHY to it, the
> result is hardware that doesn't work - there's no getting around
> that.  The MDIO interface can't generate the appropriate cycles to
> access the clause 22 PHY.  So, this is not something we need care
> about.
> 
> > So the MDIOBUS_C45 (I think I was calling it
> > C45_ONLY) is an invalid selection. Not, that it wouldn't be helpful to have
> > a C45_ONLY case, but that the assumption is that you wouldn't try and probe
> > c22 registers, which I thought was a mistake.
> 
> MDIOBUS_C45 means "I can generate clause 45 cycles".
> MDIOBUS_C22 means "I can generate clause 22 cycles".
> MDIOBUS_C45_C22 means "I can generate both clause 45 and clause 22
> cycles."
> 
> Notice carefully the values these end up with - MDIOBUS_C22 = BIT(0),
> MDIOBUS_C45 = BIT(1), MDIOBUS_C45_C22 = BIT(0) | BIT(1).  I suspect
> that was no coincidence in Andrew's suggestion.

Hi Russell

What was a nice side affect. Since i doubt Jeremy is going to go
through every MDIO driver and set the capabilities correctly, i wanted
0 to have a safe meaning. In the code we should treat MDIOBUS_UNKNOWN
and MDIOBUS_C22 identically. But maybe some time in the distant
future, we can make 0 issue a warning.

  Andrew