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Date:   Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:00:26 +0300
From:   Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>,
        Peilin Ye <yepeilin.cs@...il.com>,
        Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@...cle.com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        linux-kernel-mentees@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org,
        rds-devel@....oracle.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-kernel-mentees] [PATCH net] rds: Prevent kernel-infoleak
 in rds_notify_queue_get()

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 03:27:12PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:19:24PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> 
> > > I tried for a bit and didn't find a way to get even old gcc 4.4 to not
> > > initialize the holes.
> > 
> > Odd, so it is just the "= {0};" that does not zero out the holes?
> 
> Nope, it seems to work fine too. I tried a number of situations and I
> could not get the compiler to not zero holes, even back to gcc 4.4
> 
> It is not just accidental either, take this:
> 
> 	struct rds_rdma_notify {
> 		unsigned long user_token;
> 		unsigned char status;
> 		unsigned long user_token1 __attribute__((aligned(32)));
> 	} foo = {0};
> 
> Which has quite a big hole, clang generates:
> 
> 	movq	$0, 56(%rdi)
> 	movq	$0, 48(%rdi)
> 	movq	$0, 40(%rdi)
> 	movq	$0, 32(%rdi)
> 	movq	$0, 24(%rdi)
> 	movq	$0, 16(%rdi)
> 	movq	$0, 8(%rdi)
> 	movq	$0, (%rdi)
> 
> Deliberate extra instructions to fill both holes. gcc 10 does the
> same, older gcc's do create a rep stosq over the whole thing.
> 
> Some fiddling with godbolt shows quite a variety of output, but I
> didn't see anything that looks like a compiler not filling
> padding. Even godbolt's gcc 4.1 filled the padding, which is super old.
> 
> In several cases it seems the aggregate initializer produced better
> code than memset, in other cases it didn't
> 
> Without an actual example where this doesn't work right it is hard to
> say anything more..

Here is the example that set off the recent patches:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/27/199

Another example is commit 5ff223e86f5a ("net: Zeroing the structure
ethtool_wolinfo in ethtool_get_wol()").  I tested this one with GCC 7.4
at the time and it was a real life bug.

The rest of these patches were based on static analysis from Smatch.
They're all "theoretical" bugs based on the C standard but it's
impossible to know if and when they'll turn into real life bugs.

It's not a super long list of code that's affected because we've known
that the bug was possible for a few years.  It was only last year when
I saw that it had become a real life bug.

regards,
dan carpenter

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