netdev - Re: [PATCH] bpf, x64: bump the number of passes to 64

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Message-ID: <20201204034213.GA16653@GaryWorkstation>
Date:   Fri, 4 Dec 2020 11:42:13 +0800
From:   Gary Lin <glin@...e.com>
To:     Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>
Cc:     Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        bpf@...r.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        andreas.taschner@...e.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf, x64: bump the number of passes to 64

On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:14:31AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 12:20:38PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 12/3/20 10:12 AM, Gary Lin wrote:
> > > The x64 bpf jit expects bpf images converge within the given passes, but
> > > it could fail to do so with some corner cases. For example:
> > > 
> > >       l0:     ldh [4]
> > >       l1:     jeq #0x537d, l2, l40
> > >       l2:     ld [0]
> > >       l3:     jeq #0xfa163e0d, l4, l40
> > >       l4:     ldh [12]
> > >       l5:     ldx #0xe
> > >       l6:     jeq #0x86dd, l41, l7
> > >       l8:     ld [x+16]
> > >       l9:     ja 41
> > > 
> > >         [... repeated ja 41 ]
> > > 
> > >       l40:    ja 41
> > >       l41:    ret #0
> > >       l42:    ld #len
> > >       l43:    ret a
> > > 
> > > This bpf program contains 32 "ja 41" instructions which are effectively
> > > NOPs and designed to be replaced with valid code dynamically. Ideally,
> > > bpf jit should optimize those "ja 41" instructions out when translating
> > > the bpf instructions into x86_64 machine code. However, do_jit() can
> > > only remove one "ja 41" for offset==0 on each pass, so it requires at
> > > least 32 runs to eliminate those JMPs and exceeds the current limit of
> > > passes (20). In the end, the program got rejected when BPF_JIT_ALWAYS_ON
> > > is set even though it's legit as a classic socket filter.
> > > 
> > > Since this kind of programs are usually handcrafted rather than
> > > generated by LLVM, those programs tend to be small. To avoid increasing
> > > the complexity of BPF JIT, this commit just bumps the number of passes
> > > to 64 as suggested by Daniel to make it less likely to fail on such cases.
> > > 
> > 
> > Another idea would be to stop trying to reduce size of generated
> > code after a given number of passes have been attempted.
> > 
> > Because even a limit of 64 wont ensure all 'valid' programs can be JITed.
> 
> +1.
> Bumping the limit is not solving anything.
> It only allows bad actors force kernel to spend more time in JIT.
> If we're holding locks the longer looping may cause issues.
> I think JIT is parallel enough, but still it's a concern.
> 
> I wonder how assemblers deal with it?
> They probably face the same issue.
> 
> Instead of going back to 32-bit jumps and suddenly increase image size
> I think we can do nop padding instead.
> After few loops every insn is more or less optimal.
> I think the fix could be something like:
>   if (is_imm8(jmp_offset)) {
>        EMIT2(jmp_cond, jmp_offset);
>        if (loop_cnt > 5) {
>           EMIT N nops
>           where N = addrs[i] - addrs[i - 1]; // not sure about this math.
>           N can be 0 or 4 here.
>           // or may be NOPs should be emitted before EMIT2.
>           // need to think it through
>        }
>   }
This looks promising. Once we switch to nop padding, the image is likely
to converge soon. Maybe we can postpone the padding to the last 5 passes
so that do_jit() could optimize the image a bit more.

> Will something like this work?
> I think that's what you're suggesting, right?
> 
Besides nop padding, the optimization for 0 offset jump also has to be
disabled since it's actually the one causing image shrinking in my case.

Gary Lin