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Date:   Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:33:26 -0600
From:   David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>
To:     James Prestwood <prestwoj@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>,
        Roopa Prabhu <roopa@...dia.com>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@....com>,
        Ido Schimmel <idosch@...dia.com>,
        Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@...dia.com>,
        Chinmay Agarwal <chinagar@...eaurora.org>,
        Yajun Deng <yajun.deng@...ux.dev>,
        Tong Zhu <zhutong@...zon.com>,
        Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>,
        Jouni Malinen <jouni@...eaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] Make neighbor eviction controllable by userspace

On 10/20/21 6:32 PM, James Prestwood wrote:
> v1 -> v2:
> 
>  - It was suggested by Daniel Borkmann to extend the neighbor table settings
>    rather than adding IPv4/IPv6 options for ARP/NDISC separately. I agree
>    this way is much more concise since there is now only one place where the
>    option is checked and defined.
>  - Moved documentation/code into the same patch
>  - Explained in more detail the test scenario and results
> 
> v2 -> v3:
> 
>  - Renamed 'skip_perm' to 'nocarrier'. The way this parameter is used
>    matches this naming.
>  - Changed logic to still flush if 'nocarrier' is false.
> 
> v3 -> v4:
> 
>  - Moved NDTPA_EVICT_NOCARRIER after NDTPA_PAD
> 
> v4 -> v5:
> 
>  - Went back to the original v1 patchset and changed:
>  - Used ANDCONF for IN_DEV macro
>  - Got RCU lock prior to __in_dev_get_rcu(). Do note that the logic
>    here was extended to handle if __in_dev_get_rcu() fails. If this
>    happens the existing behavior should be maintained and set the
>    carrier down. I'm unsure if get_rcu() can fail in this context
>    though. Similar logic was used for in6_dev_get.
>  - Changed ndisc_evict_nocarrier to use a u8, proper handler, and
>    set min/max values.
> 

I'll take a deep dive on the patches tomorrow.

You need to add a selftests script under tools/testing/selftests/net
that shows this behavior with the new setting set and unset. This is
easily done with veth pairs and network namespaces (one end of the veth
pair down sets the other into no-carrier). Take a look at the scripts
there - e.g., fib_nexthops.sh should provide a template for a start point.

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