netdev - Re: [v3 2/2] dsa: mv88e6xxx: make serdes SGMII/Fiber output amplitude configurable

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Date:   Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:12:23 +0100
From:   Marek Behún <kabel@...nel.org>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>
Cc:     Holger Brunck <holger.brunck@...achienergy.com>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Subject: Re: [v3 2/2] dsa: mv88e6xxx: make serdes SGMII/Fiber output
 amplitude configurable

On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:10:09 +0100
Marek Behún <kabel@...nel.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:59:38 +0200
> Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:51:29PM +0100, Marek Behún wrote:  
> > > > > Vladimir, can you send your thoughts about this proposal? We are trying
> > > > > to propose binding for defining serdes TX amplitude.    
> > > >
> > > > I don't have any specific concern here. It sounds reasonable for
> > > > different data rates to require different transmitter configurations.
> > > > Having separate "serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt" and "serdes-tx-amplitude-modes"
> > > > properties sounds okay, although I think a prefix with "-names" at the
> > > > end is more canonical ("pinctrl-names", "clock-names", "reg-names" etc),
> > > > so maybe "serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt-names"?
> > > > Maybe we could name the first element "default", and just the others
> > > > would be named after a phy-mode. This way, if a specific TX amplitude is
> > > > found in the device tree for the currently operating PHY mode, it can be
> > > > used, otherwise the default (first) amplitude can be used.    
> > >
> > > Yes, the pair
> > >   serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt
> > >   serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt-names
> > > is the best.
> > >
> > > If the second is not defined, the first should contain only one value,
> > > and that is used as default.
> > >
> > > If multiple values are defined, but "default" is not, the driver should
> > > set default value as the default value of the corresponding register.
> > >
> > > The only remaining question is this: I need to implement this also for
> > > comphy driver. In this case, the properties should be defined in the
> > > comphy node, not in the MAC node. But the comphy also supports PCIe,
> > > USB3 and SATA modes. We don't have strings for them. So this will need
> > > to be extended in the future.
> > >
> > > But for now this proposal seems most legit. I think the properties
> > > should be defined in common PHY bindings, and other bindings should
> > > refer to them via $ref.    
> > 
> > I wouldn't $ref the tx-amplitude-millivolt-names from the phy-mode,
> > because (a) not all phy-mode values are valid (think of parallel interfaces
> > like rgmii) and (b) because sata, pcie, usb are also valid SERDES
> > protocols as you point out. With the risk of a bit of duplication, I
> > think I'd keep the SERDES protocol names a separate thing for the YAML
> > validator.  
> 
> Not what I meant. What I meant was that the tx-amplitude-millivolt*
> properties should be defined in binding for common PHY (not network PHY)
>   Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/phy-bindings.txt,
> and then the mv88e6xxx binding should refer it's
> tx-amplitude-millivolt* properties from there.
> 
> And the definition in common PHY binding should list all modes in an
> enum, containing all network SerDes modes, plus the other modes like
> PCIe, USB3, DisplayPort, LVDS, SATA, ...
> 
> Marek

Note that one PHY binding already defines such property:
  https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/brcm,sata-phy.yaml?h=v5.16-rc4#n86

So I think we need to make it generic.