netdev - Re: Phyr Starter

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Message-ID: <5c3dd9bd-abda-6c9b-8257-182f84f8f842@deltatee.com>
Date:   Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:08:35 -0700
From:   Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
Cc:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@...cle.com>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>,
        Ming Lei <ming.lei@...hat.com>, linux-block@...r.kernel.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
        nvdimm@...ts.linux.dev
Subject: Re: Phyr Starter



On 2022-01-11 4:02 p.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 03:57:07PM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2022-01-11 3:53 p.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> I just want to share the whole API that will have to exist to
>>> reasonably support this flexible array of intervals data structure..
>>
>> Is that really worth it? I feel like type safety justifies replicating a
>> bit of iteration and allocation infrastructure. Then there's no silly
>> mistakes of thinking one array is one thing when it is not.
> 
> If it is a 'a bit' then sure, but I suspect doing a good job here will
> be a lot of code here.
> 
> Look at how big scatterlist is, for instance.

Yeah, but scatterlist has a ton of cruft; numerous ways to allocate,
multiple iterators, developers using it in different ways, etc, etc.
It's a big mess. bvec.h is much smaller (though includes stuff that
wouldn't necessarily be appropriate here).

Also some things apply to one but not the other. eg: a memcpy to/from
function might make sense for a phy_range but makes no sense for a
dma_range.

> Maybe we could have a generic 64 bit interval arry and then two type
> wrappers that do dma and physaddr casting? IDK.
> 
> Not sure type safety of DMA vs CPU address is critical?

I would argue it is. A DMA address is not a CPU address and should not
be treated the same.

Logan