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Date:   Thu, 1 Sep 2022 12:14:01 +0200
From:   Florian Westphal <>
To:     Daniel Borkmann <>
Cc:     Alexei Starovoitov <>,
        Florian Westphal <>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <>,
        "David S. Miller" <>,
        Jakub Kicinski <>,
        Network Development <>,
        Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <>,
        netfilter-devel <>,
        bpf <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: nf_tables: add ebpf expression

Daniel Borkmann <> wrote:
> On 8/31/22 7:26 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 8:53 AM Florian Westphal <> wrote:
> > As a minimum we shouldn't step on the same rakes.
> > xt_ebpf would be the same dead code as xt_bpf.
> +1, and on top, the user experience will just be horrible. :(

Compared to what?

> > > If you are open to BPF_PROG_TYPE_NETFILTER I can go that route
> > > as well, raw bpf program attachment via NF_HOOK and the bpf dispatcher,
> > > but it will take significantly longer to get there.
> > > 
> > > It involves reviving
> > >
> > 
> > I missed it earlier. What is the end goal ?
> > Optimize nft run-time with on the fly generation of bpf byte code ?
> Or rather to provide a pendant to nft given existence of xt_bpf, and the
> latter will be removed at some point? (If so, can't we just deprecate the
> old xt_bpf?)

See my reply to Alexey, immediate goal was to get rid of the indirect
calls by providing a tailored/jitted equivalent of nf_hook_slow().

The next step could be to allow implementation of netfilter hooks
(i.e., kernel modules that call nf_register_net_hook()) in bpf
but AFAIU it requires addition of BPF_PROG_TYPE_NETFILTER etc.

After that, yes, one could think about how to jit nft_do_chain() and
all the rest of the nft machinery.

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