netdev - Re: FWD: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 1/1] net: dsa: microchip: ksz8: Make flow control, speed, and duplex on CPU port configurable

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Date:   Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:33:00 +0100
From:   "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>
Cc:     Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@...gutronix.de>,
        Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@...rochip.com>,
        Arun Ramadoss <arun.ramadoss@...rochip.com>,
        Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, UNGLinuxDriver@...rochip.com,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, kernel@...gutronix.de,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>
Subject: Re: FWD: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 1/1] net: dsa: microchip: ksz8: Make
 flow control, speed, and duplex on CPU port configurable

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 04:26:17PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 01:00:43PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > 	ethtool --pause ... autoneg on
> > 	ethtool --pause ... autoneg off rx off tx off
> > 	ethtool --pause ... autoneg off rx on tx on
> > 
> > Anything else wouldn't give the result the user wants, because there's
> > no way to independently force rx and tx flow control per port.
> 
> Right.
> 
> > That said, phylink doesn't give enough information to make the above
> > possible since the force bit depends on (tx && rx &&!permit_pause_to_mac)
> 
> So, since the "permit_pause_to_mac" information is missing here, I guess
> the next logical step based on what you're saying is that it's a matter
> of not using the pcs_config() API, or am I misunderstanding again? :)

pcs_config() doesn't get the "tx" and "rx" above. mac_link_up() does,
but doesn't get the "permit_pause_to_mac" (since that's supposed to
be a "configuration" thing.)

Anyway, I think this is now moot since I think we've agreed on a way
forward for this hardware.

> > So, because this hardware is that crazy, I suggest that it *doesn't*
> > even attempt to support ethtool --pause, and either is programmed
> > at setup time to use autonegotiated pause (with the negotiation state
> > programmed via ethtool -s) or it's programmed to have pause globally
> > disabled. Essentially, I'm saying the hardware is too broken in its
> > design to be worth bothering trying to work around its weirdness.
> 
> Ok. How can this driver reject changes made through ethtool --pause?

We would need either something in DSA (dsa_slave_set_pauseparam()) to
prevent success, or something in phylink_ethtool_set_pauseparam() to
do the same.

At the phylink level, that could be a boolean in struct phylink_config.
Something like "disable_ethtool_set_pauseparam" (I'd prefer something
a tad shorter) which if set would make phylink_ethtool_set_pauseparam()
return -EOPNOTSUPP.

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