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Message-ID: <6438109fe8733_13361929472@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch>
Date:   Thu, 13 Apr 2023 10:24:31 -0400
From:   Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>
To:     Breno Leitao <leitao@...ian.org>,
        Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>
Cc:     Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>,
        Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>,
        io-uring@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, kuba@...nel.org,
        asml.silence@...il.com, leit@...com, edumazet@...gle.com,
        pabeni@...hat.com, davem@...emloft.net, dccp@...r.kernel.org,
        mptcp@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        matthieu.baerts@...sares.net, marcelo.leitner@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] add initial io_uring_cmd support for sockets

Breno Leitao wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:28:41AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > Breno Leitao wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:28:29AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > > On 4/11/23 9:24?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > > Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > > >> On 4/11/23 9:00?AM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > >> But that doesn't work, because sock->ops->ioctl() assumes the arg is
> > > > >> memory in userspace. Or do you mean change all of the sock->ops->ioctl()
> > > > >> to pass in on-stack memory (or similar) and have it work with a kernel
> > > > >> address?
> > > > > 
> > > > > That was what I suggested indeed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's about as much code change as this patch series. But it avoids
> > > > > the code duplication.
> > > > 
> > > > Breno, want to tackle that as a prep patch first? Should make the
> > > > functional changes afterwards much more straightforward, and will allow
> > > > support for anything really.
> > > 
> > > Absolutely. I just want to make sure that I got the proper approach that
> > > we agreed here.
> > > 
> > > Let me explain what I understood taking TCP as an example:
> > > 
> > > 1) Rename tcp_ioctl() to something as _tcp_ioctl() where the 'arg'
> > > argument is now just a kernel memory (located in the stack frame from the
> > > callee).
> > > 
> > > 2) Recreate "tcp_ioctl()" that will basically allocate a 'arg' in the
> > > stack and call _tcp_ioctl() passing that 'arg' argument. At the bottom of
> > > this (tcp_ioctl() function) function, call `put_user(in_kernel_arg, userspace_arg)
> > > 
> > > 3) Repeat it for the 20 protocols that implement ioctl:
> > > 
> > > 	ag  "struct proto .* = {" -A 20 net/ | grep \.ioctl
> > > 	net/dccp/ipv6.c 	.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/dccp/ipv4.c		.ioctl	= dccp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ieee802154/socket.c .ioctl	= dgram_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/raw.c 		.ioctl	= raw_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/udp.c		.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c 	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/raw.c		.ioctl	= rawv6_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c	.ioctl	= tcp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/udp.c	 	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/ipv6/udplite.c	.ioctl	= udp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip6.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/l2tp/l2tp_ip.c	.ioctl	= l2tp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/phonet/datagram.:	.ioctl	= pn_ioctl,
> > > 	net/phonet/pep.c	.ioctl	= pep_ioctl,
> > > 	net/rds/af_rds.c	.ioctl	=	rds_ioctl,
> > > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl  =	sctp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/sctp/socket.c	.ioctl	= sctp_ioctl,
> > > 	net/xdp/xsk.c		.ioctl	= sock_no_ioctl,
> > > 	net/mptcp/protocol.c	.ioctl	= mptcp_ioctl,
> > > 
> > > Am I missing something?
> > 
> > The suggestion is to convert all to take kernel memory and do the
> > put_cmsg in the caller of .ioctl. Rather than create a wrapper for
> > each individual instance and add a separate .iouring_cmd for each.
> > 
> > "change all of the sock->ops->ioctl() to pass in on-stack memory
> > (or similar) and have it work with a kernel address"
> 
> is it possible to do it for cases where we don't know what is the size
> of the buffer?
> 
> For instance the raw_ioctl()/rawv6_ioctl() case. The "arg" argument is
> used in different ways (one for input and one for output):
> 
>   1) If cmd == SIOCOUTQ or SIOCINQ, then the return value will be
>   returned to userspace:
>   	put_user(amount, (int __user *)arg)
> 
>   2) For default cmd, ipmr_ioctl() is called, which reads from the `arg`
>   parameter:
> 	copy_from_user(&vr, arg, sizeof(vr)
> 
> How to handle these contradictory behaviour ahead of time (at callee
> time, where the buffers will be prepared)?
> 
> Thank you!

Ah you found a counter-example to the simple pattern of put_user.

The answer perhaps depends on how many such counter-examples you
encounter in the list you gave. If this is the only one, exceptions
in the wrapper are reasonable. Not if there are many.

Is the intent for io_uring to support all cases eventually? The
current patch series only targeted more common fast path operations.

Probably also relevant is whether/how the approach can be extended
to [gs]etsockopt, as that was another example given, with the same
challenge.